First I want to say how embarrassed I am that I got taken by these types of people. I had just
lost my IT job when I got an invite to a consulting webinar from Sam Ovens. It seemed to be a
great fit for my field and I had the experience necessary to technically consult already.
Seemed like a slam dunk...
I watched the ~90 minute webinar where every promise under the sun is made. "110% money back
guarantee", "$2000/month client in the first 30 days or your money back...", "anyone can do
this if they follow my steps", etc. It was stated over and over again how ironclad their
guarantee was. I signed up for the monthly installment plan after confirming via webinar-chat
with their associate that I would be able to have the first month refunded in the event that
Sam's claims did not hold up for me. Again, "30-day risk free guarantee" seal on the payment
page.
I went through every single piece of material in about 21 days completing the worksheets as I
went. I won't go into specifics for fear of defamation litigation (google it, Sam does this),
but suffice it to say that the overall premise is: find a niche, market it, sell it. The
entire "Consultant Accelerator" course was a sales and marketing class with the addition of
finding a niche. I can see how in certain cases this may work for people. However it doesn't
fit with my field (IT) nor my wifes (pet care) considering both are niched to the max as it
is. The course also relied heavily on Facebook solicitation (to friends and family as well as
strangers) and other practices I disagree with on principal. I decided to call it quits.
I emailed the refunds department on day 21 or 22 saying I wanted out and that I completed the
worksheets should they require them. I got an alert
a bit later while away on business that Sam Ovens had charged another $597! I immediately
disputed the charge with my credit card as well as the original $597 that they apparently
hadn't refunded yet.
A month and a half later I got a call from my bank saying that Sam Oven's was challenging my
dispute and provided all sorts of documentation saying the charges were valid. I then searched
my email for the chain with their refund department and found it in my spam folder
([email protected], not samovens.com fyi). I guess that domain where blacklisted or it
matched similar items I sent to spam, I don't know. But in the response to my refund request
they said:
"So sorry that you don't want to participate in this life changing course anymore. The course
has tons of amazing information you will benefit from and I encourage you to participate.
This program comes with a 30-day action-based guarantee.You are within the 30 day period to
qualify for a refund, we urge you to give it another shot while you still have about 10 days
within the refund period, we are confident you will see outstanding results.
You originally signed up for the course with big dreams and ideas in mind.
Let us help you achieve that!"
I wrote back (after getting another call from my bank saying they were unsuccessful with the
charge-back) asking why I'm still being charged and why I was receiving an argument to my
cancellation request. There's a long chain but to truncate: they will no longer accept my
refund because it's been more than 30 days. Just like almost all the other complaints I've
found on the internet. They string you along until the 30 days is up and then "sorry".
In hindsight there were various signs this was not a wise choice on my part. On one slide
during the webinar Sam says the refund is good for 42 days, but in reality it's only 30. He
says this to make you willingly go over the expiration date. In my case I gave plenty of
notice to stop payments. They could have requested any documentation they wanted, but instead
decided to make me wait until the last moment to cancel (although I'm not sure anything I did
would have gotten me a refund given what I've experienced with them so far).
I have the entire initial webinar recorded with the sales associates promises of refund to boot. Reach out if you need it in your own personal litigation.
First I want to say how embarrassed I am that I got taken by these types of people. I had just
lost my IT job when I got an invite to a consulting webinar from Sam Ovens. It seemed to be a
great fit for my field and I had the experience necessary to technically consult already.
Seemed like a slam dunk...
I watched the ~90 minute webinar where every promise under the sun is made. "110% money back
guarantee", "$2000/month client in the first 30 days or your money back...", "anyone can do
this if they follow my steps", etc. It was stated over and over again how ironclad their
guarantee was. I signed up for the monthly installment plan after confirming via webinar-chat
with their associate that I would be able to have the first month refunded in the event that
Sam's claims did not hold up for me. Again, "30-day risk free guarantee" seal on the payment
page.
I went through every single piece of material in about 21 days completing the worksheets as I
went. I won't go into specifics for fear of defamation litigation (google it, Sam does this),
but suffice it to say that the overall premise is: find a niche, market it, sell it. The
entire "Consultant Accelerator" course was a sales and marketing class with the addition of
finding a niche. I can see how in certain cases this may work for people. However it doesn't
fit with my field (IT) nor my wifes (pet care) considering both are niched to the max as it
is. The course also relied heavily on Facebook solicitation (to friends and family as well as
strangers) and other practices I disagree with on principal. I decided to call it quits.
I emailed the refunds department on day 21 or 22 saying I wanted out and that I completed the
worksheets should they require them. I got an alert
a bit later while away on business that Sam Ovens had charged another $597! I immediately
disputed the charge with my credit card as well as the original $597 that they apparently
hadn't refunded yet.
A month and a half later I got a call from my bank saying that Sam Oven's was challenging my
dispute and provided all sorts of documentation saying the charges were valid. I then searched
my email for the chain with their refund department and found it in my spam folder
([email protected], not samovens.com fyi). I guess that domain where blacklisted or it
matched similar items I sent to spam, I don't know. But in the response to my refund request
they said:
"So sorry that you don't want to participate in this life changing course anymore. The course
has tons of amazing information you will benefit from and I encourage you to participate.
This program comes with a 30-day action-based guarantee.You are within the 30 day period to
qualify for a refund, we urge you to give it another shot while you still have about 10 days
within the refund period, we are confident you will see outstanding results.
You originally signed up for the course with big dreams and ideas in mind.
Let us help you achieve that!"
I wrote back (after getting another call from my bank saying they were unsuccessful with the
charge-back) asking why I'm still being charged and why I was receiving an argument to my
cancellation request. There's a long chain but to truncate: they will no longer accept my
refund because it's been more than 30 days. Just like almost all the other complaints I've
found on the internet. They string you along until the 30 days is up and then "sorry".
In hindsight there were various signs this was not a wise choice on my part. On one slide
during the webinar Sam says the refund is good for 42 days, but in reality it's only 30. He
says this to make you willingly go over the expiration date. In my case I gave plenty of
notice to stop payments. They could have requested any documentation they wanted, but instead
decided to make me wait until the last moment to cancel (although I'm not sure anything I did
would have gotten me a refund given what I've experienced with them so far).
I have the entire initial webinar recorded with the sales associates promises of refund to boot. Reach out if you need it in your own personal litigation.
IN September of 2016 I responded to an e-mail from a person at the job offer site of Indeed.com. That person suggested I become a consultant with Sam Ovens. At his suggestion,I listened to the presentation at samovens.com and purchased the marketing program for $1,997. After completing the 6 programs of traing sessions, I realized that I did not have the digital experience to initially implement the difficult Facebook portion ofmarketing program. Thus I went thru the suggested manual mailing and e-mail programs both with significant expense and no success. Because of my inability to achieve any of the promises made by Sam ovens I requested a refund of my $1,997.
At present time, I believe that my request for a refund is legitimate. Sam Ovens has made promises that have not come true. He has misrepresented the technical skill needed, the ease of working in the program, the low level of cost and set up expense, the ongoing time and expense needed, and the rapidity of reaching customers. In fact the program requires a great deal of money to establish and support any of the initial work and offerings. Likewise it takes above average expertise in the technical skills required to set up the various items, and a vast overstatement of the quickness of success, even if you follow the program guidelines, all of which is extremely difficult to accomplish. I have again watched all of the training tapes, and reviewed my notes, along with taping all the sessions, and screen shooting all the parts of the presentations.
I have come to the conclusion that there are dozens of misrepresentations and promises, that would appear to fit the definitions of false promises, misrepresentations, fraud, and of being a scam, impossible to complete in a maximum 4 week time frame, despite multiple statements to the contrary. My initial request for refund was refused stating their hidden in fine print 30 day refund policy. When I continued to request a refund I was finally told that they would pay $1,00 if I accepted and would not persue any further action. I accepted the offer wanting to put all of this behind me. However I have never received any refund nor have I ever received any response to multiple e-mails sent asking when said refund would be paid. As a 73 year old bronze star Vietnam vetran I believe I have been cheated, disrespected, and purposelly ignored when I accepted the settlement. I can only asume they have expected me to just go away without any recourse
Sam Ovens Reviews
First I want to say how embarrassed I am that I got taken by these types of people. I had just
lost my IT job when I got an invite to a consulting webinar from Sam Ovens. It seemed to be a
great fit for my field and I had the experience necessary to technically consult already.
Seemed like a slam dunk...
I watched the ~90 minute webinar where every promise under the sun is made. "110% money back
guarantee", "$2000/month client in the first 30 days or your money back...", "anyone can do
this if they follow my steps", etc. It was stated over and over again how ironclad their
guarantee was. I signed up for the monthly installment plan after confirming via webinar-chat
with their associate that I would be able to have the first month refunded in the event that
Sam's claims did not hold up for me. Again, "30-day risk free guarantee" seal on the payment
page.
I went through every single piece of material in about 21 days completing the worksheets as I
went. I won't go into specifics for fear of defamation litigation (google it, Sam does this),
but suffice it to say that the overall premise is: find a niche, market it, sell it. The
entire "Consultant Accelerator" course was a sales and marketing class with the addition of
finding a niche. I can see how in certain cases this may work for people. However it doesn't
fit with my field (IT) nor my wifes (pet care) considering both are niched to the max as it
is. The course also relied heavily on Facebook solicitation (to friends and family as well as
strangers) and other practices I disagree with on principal. I decided to call it quits.
I emailed the refunds department on day 21 or 22 saying I wanted out and that I completed the
worksheets should they require them. I got an alert
a bit later while away on business that Sam Ovens had charged another $597! I immediately
disputed the charge with my credit card as well as the original $597 that they apparently
hadn't refunded yet.
A month and a half later I got a call from my bank saying that Sam Oven's was challenging my
dispute and provided all sorts of documentation saying the charges were valid. I then searched
my email for the chain with their refund department and found it in my spam folder
([email protected], not samovens.com fyi). I guess that domain where blacklisted or it
matched similar items I sent to spam, I don't know. But in the response to my refund request
they said:
"So sorry that you don't want to participate in this life changing course anymore. The course
has tons of amazing information you will benefit from and I encourage you to participate.
This program comes with a 30-day action-based guarantee.You are within the 30 day period to
qualify for a refund, we urge you to give it another shot while you still have about 10 days
within the refund period, we are confident you will see outstanding results.
You originally signed up for the course with big dreams and ideas in mind.
Let us help you achieve that!"
I wrote back (after getting another call from my bank saying they were unsuccessful with the
charge-back) asking why I'm still being charged and why I was receiving an argument to my
cancellation request. There's a long chain but to truncate: they will no longer accept my
refund because it's been more than 30 days. Just like almost all the other complaints I've
found on the internet. They string you along until the 30 days is up and then "sorry".
In hindsight there were various signs this was not a wise choice on my part. On one slide
during the webinar Sam says the refund is good for 42 days, but in reality it's only 30. He
says this to make you willingly go over the expiration date. In my case I gave plenty of
notice to stop payments. They could have requested any documentation they wanted, but instead
decided to make me wait until the last moment to cancel (although I'm not sure anything I did
would have gotten me a refund given what I've experienced with them so far).
I have the entire initial webinar recorded with the sales associates promises of refund to boot. Reach out if you need it in your own personal litigation.
First I want to say how embarrassed I am that I got taken by these types of people. I had just
lost my IT job when I got an invite to a consulting webinar from Sam Ovens. It seemed to be a
great fit for my field and I had the experience necessary to technically consult already.
Seemed like a slam dunk...
I watched the ~90 minute webinar where every promise under the sun is made. "110% money back
guarantee", "$2000/month client in the first 30 days or your money back...", "anyone can do
this if they follow my steps", etc. It was stated over and over again how ironclad their
guarantee was. I signed up for the monthly installment plan after confirming via webinar-chat
with their associate that I would be able to have the first month refunded in the event that
Sam's claims did not hold up for me. Again, "30-day risk free guarantee" seal on the payment
page.
I went through every single piece of material in about 21 days completing the worksheets as I
went. I won't go into specifics for fear of defamation litigation (google it, Sam does this),
but suffice it to say that the overall premise is: find a niche, market it, sell it. The
entire "Consultant Accelerator" course was a sales and marketing class with the addition of
finding a niche. I can see how in certain cases this may work for people. However it doesn't
fit with my field (IT) nor my wifes (pet care) considering both are niched to the max as it
is. The course also relied heavily on Facebook solicitation (to friends and family as well as
strangers) and other practices I disagree with on principal. I decided to call it quits.
I emailed the refunds department on day 21 or 22 saying I wanted out and that I completed the
worksheets should they require them. I got an alert
a bit later while away on business that Sam Ovens had charged another $597! I immediately
disputed the charge with my credit card as well as the original $597 that they apparently
hadn't refunded yet.
A month and a half later I got a call from my bank saying that Sam Oven's was challenging my
dispute and provided all sorts of documentation saying the charges were valid. I then searched
my email for the chain with their refund department and found it in my spam folder
([email protected], not samovens.com fyi). I guess that domain where blacklisted or it
matched similar items I sent to spam, I don't know. But in the response to my refund request
they said:
"So sorry that you don't want to participate in this life changing course anymore. The course
has tons of amazing information you will benefit from and I encourage you to participate.
This program comes with a 30-day action-based guarantee.You are within the 30 day period to
qualify for a refund, we urge you to give it another shot while you still have about 10 days
within the refund period, we are confident you will see outstanding results.
You originally signed up for the course with big dreams and ideas in mind.
Let us help you achieve that!"
I wrote back (after getting another call from my bank saying they were unsuccessful with the
charge-back) asking why I'm still being charged and why I was receiving an argument to my
cancellation request. There's a long chain but to truncate: they will no longer accept my
refund because it's been more than 30 days. Just like almost all the other complaints I've
found on the internet. They string you along until the 30 days is up and then "sorry".
In hindsight there were various signs this was not a wise choice on my part. On one slide
during the webinar Sam says the refund is good for 42 days, but in reality it's only 30. He
says this to make you willingly go over the expiration date. In my case I gave plenty of
notice to stop payments. They could have requested any documentation they wanted, but instead
decided to make me wait until the last moment to cancel (although I'm not sure anything I did
would have gotten me a refund given what I've experienced with them so far).
I have the entire initial webinar recorded with the sales associates promises of refund to boot. Reach out if you need it in your own personal litigation.
IN September of 2016 I responded to an e-mail from a person at the job offer site of Indeed.com. That person suggested I become a consultant with Sam Ovens. At his suggestion,I listened to the presentation at samovens.com and purchased the marketing program for $1,997. After completing the 6 programs of traing sessions, I realized that I did not have the digital experience to initially implement the difficult Facebook portion ofmarketing program. Thus I went thru the suggested manual mailing and e-mail programs both with significant expense and no success. Because of my inability to achieve any of the promises made by Sam ovens I requested a refund of my $1,997.
At present time, I believe that my request for a refund is legitimate. Sam Ovens has made promises that have not come true. He has misrepresented the technical skill needed, the ease of working in the program, the low level of cost and set up expense, the ongoing time and expense needed, and the rapidity of reaching customers. In fact the program requires a great deal of money to establish and support any of the initial work and offerings. Likewise it takes above average expertise in the technical skills required to set up the various items, and a vast overstatement of the quickness of success, even if you follow the program guidelines, all of which is extremely difficult to accomplish. I have again watched all of the training tapes, and reviewed my notes, along with taping all the sessions, and screen shooting all the parts of the presentations.
I have come to the conclusion that there are dozens of misrepresentations and promises, that would appear to fit the definitions of false promises, misrepresentations, fraud, and of being a scam, impossible to complete in a maximum 4 week time frame, despite multiple statements to the contrary. My initial request for refund was refused stating their hidden in fine print 30 day refund policy. When I continued to request a refund I was finally told that they would pay $1,00 if I accepted and would not persue any further action. I accepted the offer wanting to put all of this behind me. However I have never received any refund nor have I ever received any response to multiple e-mails sent asking when said refund would be paid. As a 73 year old bronze star Vietnam vetran I believe I have been cheated, disrespected, and purposelly ignored when I accepted the settlement. I can only asume they have expected me to just go away without any recourse