I became a "prolympian PTSD coach" in August of 2016. I paid my required $997 (on 08-17-16) to Karen Sanbourin
I will back track for a moment, I am a Master's Degree Counselor/Life Coach. I know for a fact that NO LIFE COACHING requires HIPPA compliance. I have also trained with some of the BEST trauma and crisis and PTSD people in the country (USA). I teach Post Critical Incident Classes and I work as a Critical Incident Stress Debriefer. As I was going through Karen's classes, I began to realize that something was not right here. She required that any client going through her PSTD coaching not use any other outside source of care, to include prayer or meditation. I know, with my training and experience, that removing the spiritual in the healing process for some people is detrimental to their healing process and can actually cause regression in their healing. That said, this was my first red flag.
The next red flag came when she claimed that she needed over 2000 coaches to handle a Governmental Contract to work with 185,000 families in the area of PTSD. Everything she and her daughter wrote, painted the picture as though she was talking seriously with the Department of Veteran Affairs here in the United States, as being a possible vendor of services for the Department. She and her daughter also told coaching staff that she was working with no less than three insurance companies that would use Prolympian as a contract vendor for PTSD care. All of this turned out to be a pipe dream.
She and her daughter MOVED all communications away from more public social media outlets and forbid anyone from posting their displeasure with Prolympian on their Facebook page. You see, coaches began to catch on that this was a scam. So they started their own informational site through Ryver and then a client communications portal through Doxy.me. All the while, the new web site (after three months) was still inoperable. They used Ryver and Doxy because they charged next to nothing to operate the chat rooms and storage areas for "training tools". When we would ask about time lines as far as the new site went, we would get publicaly scolded by admin staff and told not to post "derogatory or disparaging" comments in the public areas of the Ryver site. Red flags number three and four….
After being a "coach" for the company there was no flow of cliental, there were no operating web sites, complaints and resignations from coaches was flowing like water of the Niagara Falls, I decided to resign. I did not want to be associated with a company that used our Military, Veterans, First responders and trauma sufferers as a toll to con those of us who actually care about them and work with them. Additionally, like I stated earlier, our names were to be put on an active directory; well, without an active website, our names were not on ANY directory for the one 12-15 months as agreed upon by contract; which by law, is a BREECH OF CONTRACT.
As a background, I am a Veteran, and a Peace Officer. I work collaterally as a Peer Counselor for Officer involved shootings and critical incidents, I have a B.S in Crisis and Trauma Counseling and an M.A. in Counseling/Life Coaching. To add, I was once a PTSD sufferer, so when I heard about a program that would help those that I was trying to help, I jumped on the opportunity to learn more to help more… Once I resigned from the company, I was cut off IMMEDIATELY from all forms of communication with the company. When I asked for my "guaranteed" refund I was told to basically get in line and that they had one year to refund my monies according to the contract. Yes…. If they abided by the contract to begin with, I could understand their issue, but they violated the contract from the beginning.
Stay away from this company!
Additionally, I have filed a complaint with the FBI in the US at:
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I became a "prolympian PTSD coach" in August of 2016. I paid my required $997 (on 08-17-16) to Karen Sanbourin
I will back track for a moment, I am a Master's Degree Counselor/Life Coach. I know for a fact that NO LIFE COACHING requires HIPPA compliance. I have also trained with some of the BEST trauma and crisis and PTSD people in the country (USA). I teach Post Critical Incident Classes and I work as a Critical Incident Stress Debriefer. As I was going through Karen's classes, I began to realize that something was not right here. She required that any client going through her PSTD coaching not use any other outside source of care, to include prayer or meditation. I know, with my training and experience, that removing the spiritual in the healing process for some people is detrimental to their healing process and can actually cause regression in their healing. That said, this was my first red flag.
The next red flag came when she claimed that she needed over 2000 coaches to handle a Governmental Contract to work with 185,000 families in the area of PTSD. Everything she and her daughter wrote, painted the picture as though she was talking seriously with the Department of Veteran Affairs here in the United States, as being a possible vendor of services for the Department. She and her daughter also told coaching staff that she was working with no less than three insurance companies that would use Prolympian as a contract vendor for PTSD care. All of this turned out to be a pipe dream.
She and her daughter MOVED all communications away from more public social media outlets and forbid anyone from posting their displeasure with Prolympian on their Facebook page. You see, coaches began to catch on that this was a scam. So they started their own informational site through Ryver and then a client communications portal through Doxy.me. All the while, the new web site (after three months) was still inoperable. They used Ryver and Doxy because they charged next to nothing to operate the chat rooms and storage areas for "training tools". When we would ask about time lines as far as the new site went, we would get publicaly scolded by admin staff and told not to post "derogatory or disparaging" comments in the public areas of the Ryver site. Red flags number three and four….
After being a "coach" for the company there was no flow of cliental, there were no operating web sites, complaints and resignations from coaches was flowing like water of the Niagara Falls, I decided to resign. I did not want to be associated with a company that used our Military, Veterans, First responders and trauma sufferers as a toll to con those of us who actually care about them and work with them. Additionally, like I stated earlier, our names were to be put on an active directory; well, without an active website, our names were not on ANY directory for the one 12-15 months as agreed upon by contract; which by law, is a BREECH OF CONTRACT.
As a background, I am a Veteran, and a Peace Officer. I work collaterally as a Peer Counselor for Officer involved shootings and critical incidents, I have a B.S in Crisis and Trauma Counseling and an M.A. in Counseling/Life Coaching. To add, I was once a PTSD sufferer, so when I heard about a program that would help those that I was trying to help, I jumped on the opportunity to learn more to help more… Once I resigned from the company, I was cut off IMMEDIATELY from all forms of communication with the company. When I asked for my "guaranteed" refund I was told to basically get in line and that they had one year to refund my monies according to the contract. Yes…. If they abided by the contract to begin with, I could understand their issue, but they violated the contract from the beginning.
Stay away from this company!
Additionally, I have filed a complaint with the FBI in the US at: