Ocotillo Friends runs a Facebook scam where they charge local businesses, entrepreneurs, small businesses, LLCs, tradesmen, and craftsmen an annual fee in order to advertise on a Facebook Group. Furthermore, Ocotillo Friends does not charge for general members of the community whom are allowed to advertise or make recommendations advertising their businesses. Additionally, the Ocotillo Friends Admins give free memberships to close friends and family or they take alternative payments like discounts, promotions, gift baskets, gift certificates, complimentary products or services offered directly to Debbie Caba-Grammar and/or Niomee Ollverio Baker.
This is a scam because Ocotillo Friends charges a fee for something that is a free service provided by Facebook. Ocotillo Friends charges different fees for based on perceived capabilities. Ocotillo Friends does not charge a common fee for all members. Ocotillo Friends takes alternate forms of payments. Ocotillo Friends does not pay any of the advertising royalties to Facebook. In fact Ocotillo Friends does not even notify Facebook that they charge for the advertising services. In order to enforce the rules and business directory membership, Ocotillo Friends routes all of the group member to their external website and have them click a link that specifies:
~We do not allow business advertising posts on Ocotillo Friends or Ocotillo Friends buy/sell unless you are listed in our business directory!! Please message us to find out how you can be added.
Then you are required to go to the business directory and Click to Join the Business Directory link. This is where they provide the fee structure as follows after providing the type of business:
Submit A Listing
2 - Fee/Upgrade Selection
Fee Price Duration Images Allowed
Business Directory Fee $ 106.72 365 days 0
Crafters/Seasonal Fee $ 32.34 365 days 1
Image/Logo Fee $ 21.56 365 days 1
Once you pay the ransom fee you are in a 12 month contract allowing you to post an advertisement with 0-1 pictures. You are not allowed to advertise daily. You are not allowed to mention bad services or products. The admins will ban and block individuals without warnings, notifications or reasons which impacts the business user because they can no longer advertise. The business is not offered a full or partial refund...in fact when they are blocked there is no recourse because they cannot contact the Admins.
This horrible SCAM has cost the Ocotillo, Chandler, Gilbert and surrounding communities over $150,000 over the past 3 years. It is a disservice to the community, the residents and most importantly the businesses and especially unfair to Facebook while being a direct violation of the Terms of Services commitment. Do Not Advertise with Ocotillo Friends! Do not pay for free Facebook services!
Ocotillo Friends, LLC. Reviews
Ocotillo Friends runs a Facebook scam where they charge local businesses, entrepreneurs, small businesses, LLCs, tradesmen, and craftsmen an annual fee in order to advertise on a Facebook Group. Furthermore, Ocotillo Friends does not charge for general members of the community whom are allowed to advertise or make recommendations advertising their businesses. Additionally, the Ocotillo Friends Admins give free memberships to close friends and family or they take alternative payments like discounts, promotions, gift baskets, gift certificates, complimentary products or services offered directly to Debbie Caba-Grammar and/or Niomee Ollverio Baker.
This is a scam because Ocotillo Friends charges a fee for something that is a free service provided by Facebook. Ocotillo Friends charges different fees for based on perceived capabilities. Ocotillo Friends does not charge a common fee for all members. Ocotillo Friends takes alternate forms of payments. Ocotillo Friends does not pay any of the advertising royalties to Facebook. In fact Ocotillo Friends does not even notify Facebook that they charge for the advertising services. In order to enforce the rules and business directory membership, Ocotillo Friends routes all of the group member to their external website and have them click a link that specifies:
~We do not allow business advertising posts on Ocotillo Friends or Ocotillo Friends buy/sell unless you are listed in our business directory!! Please message us to find out how you can be added.
Then you are required to go to the business directory and Click to Join the Business Directory link. This is where they provide the fee structure as follows after providing the type of business:
Submit A Listing
2 - Fee/Upgrade Selection
Fee Price Duration Images Allowed
Business Directory Fee $ 106.72 365 days 0
Crafters/Seasonal Fee $ 32.34 365 days 1
Image/Logo Fee $ 21.56 365 days 1
Once you pay the ransom fee you are in a 12 month contract allowing you to post an advertisement with 0-1 pictures. You are not allowed to advertise daily. You are not allowed to mention bad services or products. The admins will ban and block individuals without warnings, notifications or reasons which impacts the business user because they can no longer advertise. The business is not offered a full or partial refund...in fact when they are blocked there is no recourse because they cannot contact the Admins.
This horrible SCAM has cost the Ocotillo, Chandler, Gilbert and surrounding communities over $150,000 over the past 3 years. It is a disservice to the community, the residents and most importantly the businesses and especially unfair to Facebook while being a direct violation of the Terms of Services commitment. Do Not Advertise with Ocotillo Friends! Do not pay for free Facebook services!