Where to even start: Although I want to just start off this report and start writing in all caps screaming to run far far far away from this compnay, I am going to try to give you a comprehesive report of my experience with MOBE so you can decide if you want to participate in this company. Here goes...
I want to be upfront and say that I am a type of person who is willing to try out new things and take risks. I work from home and have a few streams of income. I don't make a lot of money - about $3k/month right now, but I'm working on starting my own businses to make some more.
I saw a facebook ad that advertised a free workshop for small business and people who were looking to make some extra income from the comfort of their home. It advetised a retired teacher who had little to no experience using online marketing was able to make additional funds that added to her pension. I thought, great! I'll check it out as I'm wiling to try new things and I already love working from home.
Fast forward to the free workshop: I get there and the guy who lead the class was very upfront. At the very beginning of the class he basically said, look, I'm in the marketing business and I'm going to try to sell you something. This didn't bother me or surpsie me as I'm not daft to the fact tht everyone is trying to sell something or at least create value in the world.
The man leading the class was named Karl. Karl went onto say that he and his wife place facebook ads online and are able to generate a good stream of income every month. To make a long story short, he said, if you sign up for our three day seminar, we will teach you how to do what we do so that you can also start generating money from home. I considered $497 to be a no brainer for a 3-day training course on how to place ads online. (BTW I've paid for other educational seminars for a similar price and those seminars have been well worth the price becasue they delivered on what they said they were going to offer). Not only was I paying for a 3 day inperson training, but I was also, supposedly, paying for a coach who would be assigned to me to help get me started after the training so I could be provided with additional support. I thought this was a really great deal.
The coach even called me and talked to me for 30 minutes. She was like, "You're going to be so glad you invested this money, etc. etc." She told me I needed to start the first 5 steps of the 21 step program. I logged in and started the steps and it introduced Matt Lloyd, the founder of the training program, who seem more or less like a genuine guy. After the 5th step it didn't get into much more and I didn't have access to any steps after step 5 until after the 3-day seminar. I figured this was just because it wouldn't make sense until after I completed the seminar.
Fast forward to a month later when the 3-day seminar was being held - it was officially called the Home Business Summit. I arrive with laptop in hand. I'm ready to learn how to place ads online.
The leader of the class, David, a successfull business man from Mississippi who started his carpet cleaning business when he was 15 years old, lead the class. He started out at 9am by saying something like, "If anyone here doesn't think this will be for you, you're welcome to get a refund, just do it by noon." I thought, ok, that's kind of strange, but I'm glad they are willing to give people their money back.
Then for the next 3 hours until noon, David proceeds to talk about his life story and about how his frist carpet cleaning customer was his mom when he was 15 years old. He goes on to say how he sold the business later when he had over 300 employees. I started to grow a little impatient at this long winded story and didn't have anything to do with learning/training. I gave David the benefit of the doubt and thought, ok he's just a guy who likes to talk and tell jokes, I get that, but c'mon let's move onto some practical application.
Then 5 other people who are also part of leading the seminar get up to the microphone and tell about how they are so glad they started with MOBE because it really gave them the financial freedom to spend more time with their families. I think, that's awesome for all these people! I would like to KNOW exactly HOW they did what they did to get where they are. I start thinking...when are we ever going to move onto the real application of this whole process???
The rest of the class on day 1 was about more videos of success stories. Even though I was growing more and more impatient, I was still giving everyone there the benefit of the doubt. David ended the class and said he would be teaching what exactly he does on day 2. I thought, great! I'm finally ready to start learning what exactly it is I need to do to do some marketing online.
On day 2, David LITERALLY draws on a piece of paper what his facebook ads look like. When he first did this, I thought oh great he is just illustrating, then we'll see actual material to what we get access to in order to assist us doing the same for ourselves.
NOPE.
David proceeds to go into a sales pitch about how we can have access to mentors and masterclasses to learn everything from the pros all for an upfront investment $63,000.
If people didn't have that kind of cash, they could pay $2500 and really not get much but an online training course about how to get in the mental mindset to start placing ads online. But really in order to get a good ROI you'd have to pay $63,000. Oh, you don't have the money for that? Don't worry, if you have a credit score of over 650, we can get you a business loan at 0% interest for 18 months in the amont of $100,000. That way you can use the remaining $40k on money for placing ads. This all will get you to the "Diamond" status - this is really where you want to be in order to make the big bucks.
Fast forward to more videos on flashy "success stories" and people riding around in fancy cars and swimming with dolphins. No joke.
I'm sure if you're reading this, and you knew me, you'd be like, you're college educated, how did you not see this coming? Trust me, I'm so embarrased and feel so incredibly foolish. I used to only think that stupid people could get scammed. God was I wrong. Unfortunately, I wasn't the only smart person in the room, there were plenty of them, plenty of successful people, too, who were actually willing to give their money. I spoke to a successful real estate agent there who was all gung-h*o about this offer. This company very strategically and cunningly presented the offer in a way that made you stick around - really because it was all so vague. It's like you were waiting around to understand how this all worked.
I would even go to David in between breaks and ask him questions - like, so, I'm curious, what's the percentage of people who are affilates actually see this type of success that you're showing in the video and that you've had? He would NEVER answer me directly (btw after some googling I dug up their financial reports, it's less than 1% and I'll explain why later). In fact, David was a really weird guy himself. The whole time I couldn't help but think, there's something incredibly inauthentic about this person. And everytime I ask him something it's like he acts as if I shouldn't be asking him the questions I'm asking.
In fact, David himself told us that he didn't brand himself because "he had other companies he was a part of." This statement is EXTREMELEY weird - like, ok so you don't let your other investments know that you're a part of MOBE because what woud they do if they found out??? I just thought this was incredibly fishy, but he phrased in a way that left you hanging with no real info to chew on.
I could seriously write on for days about how this whole seminar was TOTALLY vague, 50% of it was David talking about how cool his life was, and the other 50% was about showing videos of other people driving fancy cars and having a life of luxury. It was very strategically crafted to keep you wondering.
There were also a lot of mental manipulation techniques used: For example, David told us, we don't tolerate negativity here, because that doesn't get you far in business. So, if you show us you're negative, we won't have a problem asking you to leave. Most of us could agree with the statement that negativity breeds negativity and is unnecessary for the most part. But really this manipulation technique is used because they don't want you to have a healthy level of SKEPTICISM. I would ask questions and confide in them that I was a bit skeptical of the process and wanted to understand what people had to do in order to be successful so that I could be confident in what MOBE had to offer. I was usually met with either annoyance, or they would say things like, "It doesn't take any GUTS to be a skeptic." David ended day two with telling us to "google 20/20's interview on the BBB." This technically was another way of saying, "We are rated an F on BBB and I could see on your iphone that you were looking that up but that's only because we don't pay to be a member of the BBB." There's technically some truth about this in regards to the BBB...but that doesn't disqualify you from being a shady company.
I went home that night just thinking, ok, I'm going to do a LOT of research on this company to see what's really going on here. Turns out the internet saves the day!
I dug up more and more stories of mine. In the end, here's what I think about MOBE:
I think it is actually possible to make money at MOBE if you can check off ALL of the following boxes: 1) You joined MOBE when it started back around 2011 or soon thereafter AND 2) you were already a millionare/could invest $60k without any financial risk to you in the event you lost it AND 3) you already had about 10 years of internet marketing experience AND 4) out of that 10 years you already had some level of moderate to high-level success in internet marketing. But even then, success for you would ALSO mean that you were only successful because hard-working people lost their money to you.
Not only that, if you are truly a part of this MOBE, it's not about providing anything of real, actual value. It's about getting other people to sign up and give over their money. It's a true pyramid/ponzi/get-rich scheme.
Here's the other thing, the company doesn't operate in America. It originally operated in Australia, then realized it had to avoid the laws there, moved it's address to the UK, then had to avoid laws there, and I believe it now operates out of Malaysia. MOBE has successfully navigated the appropriate legal loopholes in order to not be classified as an illegal company. For this I am impressed.
BTW, no one is paying me to write this story. I am doing this in the hopes that others can read my story and save their hard-earned money. I'm so embarrased that I fell for the 3-day home business summit that I can't even tell my husband. I'm so ashamed. I will from now on be investigating companies before I hand over money. I'm also disputing the $497 with my credit card company in the hopes they will refund me.
Even though I can confidently say that you CAN be the 1% of people who make big $$ with MOBE if and only if you are already a successful online marketer before joining the company, I don't know how you could morally pride yourself every night when you go to sleep knowing that you made big bucks from MOBE because hard-working people lost their money to you.
NO one is paying me to write this story. I'm telling it because I don't want hard-working people to lose their money. My heart goes out to all the people (approx 50-70% of people there) who actually paid MOBE anywhere between $2500-$63000 yesterday. I feel it's my moral obligation to tell my story.
I went to a workshop a workshop. They didn't tell what the workshop was on. Showed us a couple clips. On how to earn income using the internet. I signed up for gold membership. They contact me that evening. Then I started course I was at step 4 I did answered questions. She called me and told me after step 5 it wasn't teaching me anything else.
I needed to pay more before the workshop. Was called the business summit. I went to the three day course they make you feel like it's the best program to make money from. Alot of people spent money that day. But then I got home a email was sent to me saying I have a business back page office. I can now start making return.
Then I went on had nothing They took advantage of my mind and told me lies while trying to take more from me. I thought because she called me on the phone that was building a relationship. She would be a good mentor. I have low self-esteem and money issues.
MOBE has scammed millions of dollars from thousands of elderly and disabled vets. We have created a group in FB to come together and fight for our money back..If you have been scammed by Mobe please come join us. MOBE REFUND GROUP ON FB
Went to an information meeting in Jan. 2018. Decided to give it a try and bought into their 3 day course for $500. Feb2-4, 2018.
It was call Matt Lloyd' 3 Day Home Business Summit. Held at the DoubleTree Hotel in Anaheim, Ca. We showed up on Feb. 2nd, day 1. That day we got a booklet that was called the program catalog. That catalog talked about the mision statement, the stages of business, compensation program and all the levels that you could sign up for with the cost of each level and the rewards. That took almost the whole day. Day 2 again sold you on fluff and had you go to sign up to see if you qualified for there grant/loan program. I got an appt towards the end of the day. I didn't qualify for it. Day 3 we really did learn anything. It was a half day and the only people who could stay for the rest were the people who qualified for the grant/loan. The rest of us were told to leave.
We were told to read the book that we got at the initial 2 hour seminar. We also received a canva bag with several workbooks that we would go thru at the 3 day. Never touched those workbooks. They pitch about buying in to the bigger picture.
Anybody got a class action going? I would love to join.
On May 21, 2018 I signed up for a silver masterclass in mobe for $3,009.00. I was told that after I did the 21 steps as a entryway to the company. That I would be taught how to traffic online and help sell the product and make money as well. I signed up for mobe inspirations convincing me to signup. If I did the work I would get paid. I went to check up on the progress to see where I was because I just finished the 21 steps and everything is gone. Then I find out it was all a scam I want, no I need my money back. I have all my emails, notes and invoice recipe from this.
I was promised that I would be able to start my own online business from home by purchasing their online training programs, in return once I finished the online training I would receive large commissions in payment through sales of their educational products. The court ordered the the Federal Trade Commission to close down the company MOBE and its owner Matt Mcphee Lloyd and freeze all of his accounts because an investigation into the company proved that this was an online fraudulant educational business and any person who had purchased the online traing was fraudulantly taken advantage of and would not be able to complete the online traing nor start up their own online business.
I was told I had a month to cancel should I not want this program. I contacted my contact there to find out how I should cancel. He emailed me a link that was not in service. Found my receipt and the number provided there; left three messages. Never received a call back and can find no way to cancel this. Now 30 days have passed and I have no refund.
This company is fraudelent; do not get pulled in.
If there is an IL class action lawsuit, or a national one, count me in.
I signed up for MOBE about a few weeks i was on step 10 all in a sudden i can not get to thier page, and no one to talk to. I went to thier weeb site and i found thier phone number and i been calling almost everyday living massages and no respond. I have reported to BBB. and no respond to thier complaint.I need help to get my money back thanks.
*I'm so angry. My mother is a very responsible person. did everything right. now she's losing her house and everything she owns because of MOBE. theyre so deceiving. just kept pushing her to give more and more. now they're being investigated and my mother has cashed out of her stock. refinanced her house. and now can't afford to live here anymore. is losing he home at 70 years old thinking if she did everything they said that she'd be a millionaire. This is F**king nuts. How did this happen?? what do I do now??*
March 2018, in San Francisco, U.S.A., MattLloyd's MOBE firstly told us to pay $600.00 and teach us to learn earning money On line at a 3-day seminar. But for 3 days they changed the words. They didn't tell a single word about On line business, but to sell us his Silver-Gold, Platinum and Diamond membership and requested us to pay about $8,000 and more as Affliliate, And we need to seduce more members and tell them they would become millionaire if they pay and join the MLM, the Pyramid to sell nothing. They also told us to send E-mail to English-speaking Asian countries such as India, Pakistan etc. because the people there are more easily to be lured to join the MLM of MODE.
I foolishly fell for an online scam that promises to teach you how to make money on the internet. I signed up for a 21 step program that stated I could be refunded my money anytime if I were unhappy . They charged me 97$ and took it from my account . I sent an email to the coach that got ahold of my order . Stating that I had been had. The money was redeposited. Then I decided to give it a fair shot . The money was again taken out . By the second step I completely figured out what this company was doing and how the people were Getting rich . I opted out with a statement of why. Was told to contact support yet never received any responses. A week later the entire records for these transactions were wiped off my banking statements as if it never happened and so were the 97$
I am not the only one taken into this MOBE opportunity that cost me $16,000 and got $200
I join MOBE one year ago and was NOT TOLD that what I need to succeed, will need to have several thousand dollars, but the coaches told me that all I needed $50 to $100, at the time to be successful, to be able to make good money, what a lie and deception.
I am 70 and on social security making only $650 a month, and join with credit cards only.
And trusting the guidance I spend over $3,000 on solo ads and facebook, and extra coaching, and all I got $200.
Then few months ago I decide to stop wasting money that I do not have, and realized I need to go bankrupt not my first choice.
So I send more then one message to Matt asking him since I am an artist if he would buy one or more of my under the ocean painting that will fit perfectly in his Costa Rica resort so that money he can use it has a tax right off and I could minimized the credit card charges.
But Matt is too busy traveling and is NOT TRUE that he makes him self available to any one in his organization.
I know that I am not the only one disappointed in MOBE and with Matt Lloyd. I cannot commend this MOBE opportunity to any one unless they have lots of money and have more tech skills.
This is a scam, and more need to learn more before they get trap in the Promise of able to make lots of money like they make you believe.
I came across a site which promises to give you $500.00 if you watch the (long!) video to the end. That was the 1. lie. Towards the end Matt Lloyd counts down the last 10 min. again claiming you get the money. That was the 2. lie. He goes on to say that the job is so easy a child can do it & explains that we will post links on Facebook. He promises that you will make $100.00 on your first day in 30 min. that was the 3. lie. I signed up to work from home & paid $47.00 to get started. After I paid I was lead from one video to the next, reading all night long only to find out that I needed a Coach and that there were 21 steps to learn. He went on to say, that if you don't make money with his system he will give you, you guessed it... $500.00!
I spoke to my Coach who asked me why I wanted my own business??? That was my 2. clue that I was being misled, since I never signed up for that. Then she tells me that each of the 21 steps takes 1 day to learn. So much for making $100.00 on your 1. day! Then she tells me that at step 7 I will have to spend $2000.00 to get a business license! At this point it is clear that not only will I not make money before 3 weeks, but I'll have to spend more money, which was not at all what I signed up for. I contacted Matt Lloyd on numerous occasions, explaining the above and requesting my $500.00, only to be ignored. This is an obvious scam and I am asking that you investigate this man. Here is the info I have: [email protected] AskMattLloyd.com www.mobe.com Mobe support 1844-662-3787
Thank you so much for this!! I signed up a couple days ago and immediately regretted paying the 50 dollars. I couldn’t find any information on how to get ahold of the company to get a refund until I saw this so thank you for helping me get my money back!
Matt Lloyd and his company has charged my credit card twice now and does not want to refund any money back even though I did not want to and was told by his trainer that I do not have my heart in it and so I they would not let me complete these steps. I am 68 years old and I recently retired because of my health. I also take care of my x-husband because of his health and he is the father of my children. I purchased this because I wanted to learn more about how to make money online but now I can't get them to stop charging my credit card. My bills are quite a bit and I have a mortgage also. This is a rip off.
I belived that the system would make me a wealthy woman so I used the suggested funding process and got the funding and purchased leads twice, was able to get a little over $4,000 in commissions. I thought I was all set but then found out that the only way to make commissions is to purchase more leads and I didn't have enough free money to purchase anymore leads and now I am in such credit card debt that I will be filing for bankruptcy soon. I absolutely feel I have been scammed although MOBE appears to be a well organized, systematic business. It just didn't work for me. The leads I purchased remain mine for the rest of my life, but I choose not to do anymore with the business knowing it won't work anymore unless I buy more leads and I can't do that.
Tumelo Molefhe is a nightmare to deal with. Whatever you do, never buy anything online, offline or remotely related to this person.
She is a MOBE affiliate and is trying to fool people to grow her business. She is not only a shady seller but also a shady buyer of products and service. If she buys from you, you’re not going to see that money in your bank.
....and above that you’ll always have to go above and beyond to serve her unrealistic needs.
I repeat: she is a MOBE or my online business empire affiliate and she must not be bought from or you’re going to regret any money spent with her for the rest of your live.
This is an affiliate program in which trhe affiliates go through several training programs on webinars, have different coaches who are supposed to help you to sell MOBE's steps & programs on social media. The tuition was $61000.00 & will not be refunded unless 5 sales are made. There is not enough coaching on every aspect, as wastokdto participantsin a 3-day workshop. Additionally, there have bern 2 charges to my credit card that I do not recognize, nor approve. One wasm$2112.83 on 11/22/17 for MIBE mastermind and another one for$3100.00 on 12/18/17 stated a*s SummitMarketing Pros. I did not attend either of these events.
Misinformed, omission of the terms of upgrades and tell you after otherwise that using an installment plan doesn’t give me benefit of the upgrade licensing right to be able to sell to a consumer and make 3300 per Sale and most importantly the 5 extra training sessions which was the reason I agreed to the installment plan bec I need to learn more as I’m working on my Ads since I don’t have experience, until I pay it off. The traffic coach Wayne Gosse told me if I upgrade from silver to titanium I was going to have 5 more sessions with him to teach me more about driving traffic such as placing Ad on Facebook, for the 21 step program. However the bad part about this coaching sessions is he just sends me links to go to figure things out on my own has never really gave me help as a coach only that he lied about the upgrade doing a three month installment to get more sessions and I’ve already paid for the down payment, and the inner circle news letter $2,968 total.
I even email customer support about getting me another coach because he’s never provided the help I needed. I have proof of that too. After him telling me the true facts of the terms of this installment few days later since I paid the down payment I asked him I won’t upgrade anymore as I’ll be paying them worth almost $10,000 extra with this upgrade and not have the benefit he mentioned until it’s paid off. He nonchalantly told me to call customer support for the refund. I have proof of this discussion to on skype I never delete or erase anything tht is important and right now it is serving me well as I have concrete evidence to prove this issue.
The trouble begins as it’s been months of emailing and calling back and forth for the refund. Only the prorated inner circle $968 was refunded after months of debacle. The $2000 downpayment they just stopped responding and at this point I’m in so much debt max out my card working my a*s off to make this work still. The whole so called affiliate program to drive traffic to their site to sell to consumers is the same program I’ve invested in and go through what I went through to start. Their video sales marketing says you will make 1200, 3300,5500, and 10,000 without having to talk to people and with doing only few hours of work they do the rest but ever since I started in June 2017, I have never worked and put in so much hours and sleep less nights to figuring out how to work everything and waiting for consumers who opted in my ads who are from different countries with different time zone to talk to them about the 21 step program, their sales pitch in the first and second workshop, IM Freedom workshop and Home business Summit is we don’t have to talk to people we just drive traffic n get paid and no experience needed.
I was promoting their WiFi millionaire system.After figuring the program training on my own with their outdated videos I and other colleagues were not informed about the extra costs we will be doing placing Ads on Facebook which in only a few months put me in again so much debt over 10,000 in debt, all of which I can prove from my Facebook ads manager billing history, and other credit cards I used for so much more. I even made sure I had a legitimate business filed for business license, certificates and bank account for it and a P.O. box address. Cost me almost 1,000. One of the red flags I’ve experienced was when I asked my sponsor (the person’s ad that I clicked to join MOBE) Rosanna Tello, about my address she told me to make it up. What reputable affiliates in a company that teaches people to make-up stuff.
Such as a proper business address. I pay yearly to usps to have a P.O. BOX address for business. Phone calls from customers in other countries in my phone statement, another proof. By the way. I am also appalled that in the beginning we were not informed of the additional resources we need to use to create have a domain, an auto responder email company, and clickfunnel. These extras are monthly recurring bills including a monthly affiliate fee of $19.95, except the godaddy domains which you pay yearly. Lastly the long battle of refunds for months that one was never resolved only the prorated $806 for the inner circle I have email proof of them sending me separate email for each refunds to sign or fill up so they can refund me but never got a respond from them ever since about the $2,000.
What commissions I did make from willing consumers that still want to take the risk on investing in the company, the frozen it because of the titanium upgrade that I have been battling for months. I have about $1,600. Someone called me and let me know about this issue and again I have proof on skype that he was going to look into it again(which he never did) and has stopped responding to my messages for an update of this another dilemma. His name is Muhammad Bilal. Also, they have a Facebook group for us affiliates and when people start venting their issues somehow after a few hours or day, these FB convos are deleted, the host of this Facebook group is called Matt Doyll. However I have a few snapshots I was able to take as evidence in these FB conversations before they were deleted.
Lastly the worst part of it all is realizing there’s really no product to sell, in order to get commissions we are pretty much recruiting as many people and the 21 step program which has many names by the way to make it seem new when it’s the same "product”, a so called product that is really a disguise as a way to bait desperate people (like me) to Work at home and a promised few hours of work only to put in when that’s not the case. I have corresponding emails from customers that I unfortunately cannot in conscience sell their bait product because what I was going through and what they’re doing is wrong and illegal and I couldn’t bare to put someone thru tht especially if they don’t have financial stability to invest so I pretty much turned them down and explained to them the reality of this company and u need to do to work and earn.
In the MOBE back office for us members it even has a feature that’s called "downline” downline sales” with names of people who have been recruited when they purchased the bait product through my Ad. That’s when I put things together and accept the fact that I have joined a hidden pyramid scheme business. I also Skyped with other MOBE people who were referred to me by colleagues who said they might be of help with all my problems, their names are Jarrel Benjamin and Susan Zanghi. Also have a skype evidence of our conversation that went nowhere. In a few of my emails I even Ccd the CEO Matt Lloyd and the people involved in this problem, I hoped that the CEO will investigate this as I still was wishing he seemed like a reliable man, never once has he replied. This is my experience with MOBE.
I hope this will not go unnoticed as I discovered many others are experiencing same issues and the same pattern of actions From the people at MOBE. to anyone who has or had a problem with the company, please don’t stay quiet. One or two people’s voices are not as loud as hundred and thousands of us banding together. Make sure you have concrete evidence as I have. Message me to make a difference not only on your lives and well being but also the well being of other people in the future so they won’t have to go through what we have gone through. Take action by calling and filing a complaint with your attorney general in your state u live in and the FTC. Pyramid scheme disguised as business is breaking the US Law. It’s time we stand up for what’s right just like the people who stood up to Wells Fargo bank and get rightful justice.
They sent me an email saying that there is a way for me to make money online, they start with this video saying watch this video completely all the way through for $500 when I am done watching the video. never happened, never got the $500, they just wanted my $47 to start the 21 steps. they promised me if I start the course that I will receive Matt Lloyd's hard copy book in the mail after step 3, never happened, in his webinar in step 5, it is mandatory for you to take that webinar before you can move on to step 6,One of the products that they offered was to earn while I learn, but that product does not exist none of their Associates know anything about that they just want more money. Yes I would like to join the class action lawsuit.
MOBE consultants are pushed to make money off commissions for recruiting more MOBE consultants, and all the financial educational material that consultants are expected to buy is geared to earning big commissions through the recruitment of fellow consultants. It is emphasized again and again that the best way to quickly make money with MOBE is to go into debt, if necessary, in order to buy into the highest Diamond Mastermind consultant level, which costs $61K.
They will offer you a special loan with their company-related credit card based on your business experience and financial situation. You also have the option to buy into one of the other five lower levels, but if you then recruit people into consultant levels higher than your own, you will lose most of your recruiting commissions to your upline, which could be several levels above you.
I paid more than $2000 to try and start my MOBE business buying their training programs and then trying to promote my own sales which to date has never occurred. MOBE is a ripoff misleading a potential entrepreneur in to thinking they could make a lot of money which never came true.
I have been ripped off by Mobe Matt LLoyd and they have different sites you dont know what it is until you get hookd and then its Mobe They took more money than they should have I didnt want all that you can spend alot on these sites They advertize you make big money but that is a scam
On December 27, 2016 I submitted an Email request to Grant McDonnell who work for Matt Lloyd of MOBE and its 21STEP PROGRAM. I had rquested my refund amount on this day at 4:25PM to these men and thier company for my refund of merely $49.00 starter program fee. After looking at the Program and seeing that it was not a 7 Step Program as advertised, but later became a 21Step Program and this was the fee amount to get started. I submitted my Online Order information as requested with no results. I have repeatedly email Matt LLoyd and Grant MCDonnel(my assigned coach) but neither have replied nor have I still not received my refund which theire ofice said it would re sbumitt within 4 days. Its past 4 days and still No REFUNd from this Program. This is let other know that this company nor its so called business affiliates are reptubale nor ethical with business prcatices. Research before joining!
I purchased MOBE 21 step program for $50 after seeing an add on how to make loads of money gauranteed or else they would pay you $500. I purchased the program which doesnt show you anything other than introducing their other products you actually would have to buy in order to make that money. During the 21 steps youre supposed to receive coaching which I had no response from my coach after several attempts. Once getting to step 6,it offers you the oppurtunity to purchase the program to start making money. Had I know it would cost more money I wouldnt have bought it in the firt place. So I took the bait and bought the program for $1197. Still had no coaching or tools to help me utilize what I purchased. After getting into the later steps in 20 and 21 I learn then you have to invest even more money to start making money. I never made one cent from this program because it kept asking me to invest more money to get to the higher level of the program also and then I dawned on me to read the reviews and I found others saying exactly the same thing. Its a scam. If anyone knows how to sue this company please let me know.
This was another classic case of what is being said is too good to be true. I had been trying to find a good alternative to my regular income while off on disability for my knee replacement surgery and found this. Poked around a little bit about Matt and company but obviously not nearly enough! Had some complications with my rehabilitation and was trying to get ahold of my coach or the main manager guy over my coach for alternative way of contacting them and couldn't get answer from either since Skype wasn't jiving with my tablet. Since getting things back in order I tried again and finally got a response back. But after replying to response and letting support know my issue, I decided to do a little more poking around and found the link below filling me in on what a crock of crap this is!! http://savvybloke.com/mobe/
MY STORY WITH MOBE AND MATT Lloyd. By William John Internet Marketing. I have been told by a representative of MOBE that what I have written here is lies is defamatory is libellous and slanderous and I am being unreasonable. Everything below is fact and is a true account of myself and Mobe.
APPROX one year ago I joined a company called MOBE I joined for the price advertised which was $49 for this price I got a so called coach and a 21 video course only two video's are opened at any one time after about video 4 or 5 I was asked for a payment the coach told me that I would have to pay APPROX $3,500 he also told me that would be all I would have to pay, bells should have started ringing after all I joined at the advertised price of $49 this was catch number one. After completing the 21 video steps which just concentrated on selling this scam to other people, I was told the full price for this program was $30,000 catch number two, such a ridiculous price was out of my range for anything especially for something bought of the internet, I was not told upfront the full cost of joining MOBE so I decided to ask for a refund on the grounds that I had not been told the full cost upfront, I applied for a refund which in my mind seemed fair enough any legitimate company could see I had a valid point, I received an email from MOBE support telling me I was not entitled to a refund catch number three.
To be entitled to a refund a member of MOBE must produce the email they joined with and must advertise for one year with three types of paid advertising catch number four; this is the key to this scam Matt Lloyd who owns MOBE knows that unless again told upfront no person is going to keep the email they joined MOBE with and the advertising for one year is going to cost more than the money a person may be owed so this is what Matt Lloyd is counting on that people will think it’s not worth going on with their claim for a refund I suggest Matt Lloyd has scammed more money this way than he has made selling his high ticket priced programs. Most countries and states already have legislation in place to cover such refund claims Matt Lloyd must think he is something special if he thinks he has the right to override government agencies I say he does not have any such rights to ignore any county’s law. For all the people out there who have been scammed by MOBE and that is thousands upon thousands don’t give up on your money flood the appropriate agencies with complaints so they have to do something about this thief who has stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from us.
Approximately one year ago Matt Lloyd advertised that he had made one hundred million dollars with MOBE that is money that belongs to people like you and I so let’s do something to get our money back. Matt Lloyd has been very clever putting this together but if you look at it, it soon becomes clear that each step of his refund policy has been thought out to make sure his customers get scammed if they invest any money at all into MOBE. Matt Lloyd does not have a refund policy he does have a high paying SCAM policy, please be aware any money you spend with Matt Lloyd is money you will not see again. But it is not just his customers who should be aware of Matt Lloyd and MOBE one affiliate who is owed over $50,000 has had his access to MOBE blocked this man has made a short video so that unsuspecting members of the public can see how Matt Lloyd treats at least this affiliate you can play his video below to see this for yourself there is also a link to other people who have been scammed by this company. Any person contemplating buying this over priced knowledge is going to Pay $30,000 for information they can get off the internet for a very small cost and can even get the same information free from (wealthy affiliate).
I have tried to negotiate a refund but I am expected to sign a legal document that I do not agree with in other words a gag order they have no chance my story is just that my story and I will publish it for all to see in the hope I can help prevent others from being scammed by MOBE and Matt Lloyd. Matt Lloyd has offered me my money back subject to me signing a legal document that I am not prepared to sign, this document is in fact a gag order and I will not have my right to free speech interfered with by Matt Lloyd or anyone else also there is a $25,000 clause in it. This offer to refund my money is proof that Matt Lloyd scammed me and he does not want me to post my story for anyone to read the legal document I refer to is below for you all to read. The offer of my money back is because I told Matt Lloyd I was going to post my story. All other people who have lost their money with MOBE in the same way I have, should also post their story to show unsuspecting people what they can expect from MOBE and Matt Lloyd. Every person who has been scammed by mobe the same way I was should have their money refunded without any conditions. In Matt Lloyds words 98% who buy into Mobe do not make any money and that is 98% who have been scammed by Mobe because they were not told the cost upfront and not told the so called refund policy, Matt Lloyd has to scam people because who would buy into Mobe if they knew the full cost and the refund policy upfront.
Please read the links below and see others scammed by Mobe and Matt Lloyd. youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2KLOGEVeY waystoavoidscamsonlie.com/scam-alets#comment Because I will not sign my rights away Matt Lloyd who stole my money without any legal documents Is still holding on to my money, he must be in real need of my $3,420 AUS. You can write to me ([email protected]) better still post your story on social media. William John Thomas Settlement Agreement And Mutual Release This settlement Agreement and release (‘’ Agreement’’) is made and entered into by and between MOBE, LTD. (‘’ MOBE ’’) and William John Thomas (‘’Student’’). And is effective as of sometimes referred to herein individually as ‘’party’’ or collectively as the ‘’parties’’. Recitals A Student entered into an agreement with MOBE where MOBE was to provide business Educational training. b Student and MOBE have mutually agreed to part ways; c The parties seek now to settle and release claims against one another d Student must sign and return this Agreement to MOBE by September 23, 2016 or the offer herein will expire. Agreemen Incorporation of recitals – the recitals set forth above are incorporated into this agreement MOBE promises and obligations under this agreement – MOBE promises to refund student Two thousand four hundred ninety seven US dollars and no cents (USD$2,497.00) via wire transfer to the bank account student designates, no less then seven days after student returns this signed release to MOBE and complies with removal requirements set out below 1. Student’s promise and obligations under this agreement – Student promises and agrees to keep this agreement and all terms, conditions and obligations in the agreement confidential. Student agree to assist MOBE if necessary to ensure there are no issues with a merchant processor or banking institution. Student agrees to remove any and all negative online post regarding MOBE. In addition, Student agrees not to make any future negative posts or comment about MOBE. Student agree to only communicate , the following statement with regard to this statement: ‘’Student and MOBE have resolved their differences’’ Student agree to be bound by a permanent injunction without a need to post bond in the event any breach of this Agreement occurs. Students agree to forgive and waive completely any and all claims asserted or unasserted, known or unknown, against MOBE that accrued up to the time of the signing of this agreement. Student agrees to contact any regulatory body where a complaint may have been lodged regarding the disputes between the parties and notify them the disputes have been resolved. Please warn all your friends about this scam William John Thomas.
Advertisement- "No risk to you" - Result - After you have purchased the product the original ad is null and void you sign a contract agreeing to a one year active trial period. The oldest con game in the business. Bait and switch. I was dumb enought to fall for it. Shame on me, but I want to warn others.
Been trying to work with Mobe to get my funds back and they are stupid and will not help and refund my money. I agree to be charged $49.00 and they charged me $3,297.00. WTF... They are a bad company and should not be a good campany to do business with.
They promise you one thing, sign your name on items, and then screw you over and would not give me a refund after they have a money back guarntee.
A request was made to MOBE'S support desk on April 27, 2016 for a refund of MLR-Mobes License Rights was requested when the plaintiffs husband was hospitalized
The plaintiff is legally blind, and unable to support herself, and went into this educational program to learn how to make more money other than the disability check her family is unable to live off of. When her husband was unexpectedly admitted to the hospital, she made a special plea for the refund asap, and all attempts have been denied because they refuse to look at the special circumstance
MOBE Support - Catherine
I received the additional information you submitted. According to the terms of the refund you are not eligible for a refund because you haven’t worked the business for a full 12 months.
Once you have consistently implemented the marketing strategies according to the refund policy you may resubmit your request
In order to be eligible for the refund policy you need to have 12 months of consistant proof. I suggest you go review TMA and implement the strategies found in that course.
Please keep in mind you have complete access to TMA (Traffic Masters Academy), our daily traffic coaching webinars which are live with Q&A sessions, as well as our daily power up calls. These resources have been found invaluable to many new marketers and I would urge you to learn the materials in the TMA, as well as attend as many of the webinars and calls you can.
Best wishes
The plaintiff will undoubtedly lose her home if these funds are not returned to her, because the program she entered has NOT made her any money as it claims. MOBE refuses any special circumstances, and she has stated numerous times how she does NOT have 12 months because she cannot survive on the disability check she currently makes, and was expecting to make money from the course she thought would change her life
Matt Lloyd needs to live up to his claim of willingness to help his affiliates. Instead he has turned out to be a dyslexic Robin Hood - "Stealing from the Poor and Giving to the Rich" Matt Lloyd does NOT care about those who try to succeed with his program, he only cares about those who can afford the much more expensive higher listed programs, and the man is only obsessed with his millions, not those who try to succeed and are struggling - Stear clear of this Affiliate Program
MOBE Reviews
Where to even start: Although I want to just start off this report and start writing in all caps screaming to run far far far away from this compnay, I am going to try to give you a comprehesive report of my experience with MOBE so you can decide if you want to participate in this company. Here goes...
I want to be upfront and say that I am a type of person who is willing to try out new things and take risks. I work from home and have a few streams of income. I don't make a lot of money - about $3k/month right now, but I'm working on starting my own businses to make some more.
I saw a facebook ad that advertised a free workshop for small business and people who were looking to make some extra income from the comfort of their home. It advetised a retired teacher who had little to no experience using online marketing was able to make additional funds that added to her pension. I thought, great! I'll check it out as I'm wiling to try new things and I already love working from home.
Fast forward to the free workshop: I get there and the guy who lead the class was very upfront. At the very beginning of the class he basically said, look, I'm in the marketing business and I'm going to try to sell you something. This didn't bother me or surpsie me as I'm not daft to the fact tht everyone is trying to sell something or at least create value in the world.
The man leading the class was named Karl. Karl went onto say that he and his wife place facebook ads online and are able to generate a good stream of income every month. To make a long story short, he said, if you sign up for our three day seminar, we will teach you how to do what we do so that you can also start generating money from home. I considered $497 to be a no brainer for a 3-day training course on how to place ads online. (BTW I've paid for other educational seminars for a similar price and those seminars have been well worth the price becasue they delivered on what they said they were going to offer). Not only was I paying for a 3 day inperson training, but I was also, supposedly, paying for a coach who would be assigned to me to help get me started after the training so I could be provided with additional support. I thought this was a really great deal.
The coach even called me and talked to me for 30 minutes. She was like, "You're going to be so glad you invested this money, etc. etc." She told me I needed to start the first 5 steps of the 21 step program. I logged in and started the steps and it introduced Matt Lloyd, the founder of the training program, who seem more or less like a genuine guy. After the 5th step it didn't get into much more and I didn't have access to any steps after step 5 until after the 3-day seminar. I figured this was just because it wouldn't make sense until after I completed the seminar.
Fast forward to a month later when the 3-day seminar was being held - it was officially called the Home Business Summit. I arrive with laptop in hand. I'm ready to learn how to place ads online.
The leader of the class, David, a successfull business man from Mississippi who started his carpet cleaning business when he was 15 years old, lead the class. He started out at 9am by saying something like, "If anyone here doesn't think this will be for you, you're welcome to get a refund, just do it by noon." I thought, ok, that's kind of strange, but I'm glad they are willing to give people their money back.
Then for the next 3 hours until noon, David proceeds to talk about his life story and about how his frist carpet cleaning customer was his mom when he was 15 years old. He goes on to say how he sold the business later when he had over 300 employees. I started to grow a little impatient at this long winded story and didn't have anything to do with learning/training. I gave David the benefit of the doubt and thought, ok he's just a guy who likes to talk and tell jokes, I get that, but c'mon let's move onto some practical application.
Then 5 other people who are also part of leading the seminar get up to the microphone and tell about how they are so glad they started with MOBE because it really gave them the financial freedom to spend more time with their families. I think, that's awesome for all these people! I would like to KNOW exactly HOW they did what they did to get where they are. I start thinking...when are we ever going to move onto the real application of this whole process???
The rest of the class on day 1 was about more videos of success stories. Even though I was growing more and more impatient, I was still giving everyone there the benefit of the doubt. David ended the class and said he would be teaching what exactly he does on day 2. I thought, great! I'm finally ready to start learning what exactly it is I need to do to do some marketing online.
On day 2, David LITERALLY draws on a piece of paper what his facebook ads look like. When he first did this, I thought oh great he is just illustrating, then we'll see actual material to what we get access to in order to assist us doing the same for ourselves.
NOPE.
David proceeds to go into a sales pitch about how we can have access to mentors and masterclasses to learn everything from the pros all for an upfront investment $63,000.
If people didn't have that kind of cash, they could pay $2500 and really not get much but an online training course about how to get in the mental mindset to start placing ads online. But really in order to get a good ROI you'd have to pay $63,000. Oh, you don't have the money for that? Don't worry, if you have a credit score of over 650, we can get you a business loan at 0% interest for 18 months in the amont of $100,000. That way you can use the remaining $40k on money for placing ads. This all will get you to the "Diamond" status - this is really where you want to be in order to make the big bucks.
Fast forward to more videos on flashy "success stories" and people riding around in fancy cars and swimming with dolphins. No joke.
I'm sure if you're reading this, and you knew me, you'd be like, you're college educated, how did you not see this coming? Trust me, I'm so embarrased and feel so incredibly foolish. I used to only think that stupid people could get scammed. God was I wrong. Unfortunately, I wasn't the only smart person in the room, there were plenty of them, plenty of successful people, too, who were actually willing to give their money. I spoke to a successful real estate agent there who was all gung-h*o about this offer. This company very strategically and cunningly presented the offer in a way that made you stick around - really because it was all so vague. It's like you were waiting around to understand how this all worked.
I would even go to David in between breaks and ask him questions - like, so, I'm curious, what's the percentage of people who are affilates actually see this type of success that you're showing in the video and that you've had? He would NEVER answer me directly (btw after some googling I dug up their financial reports, it's less than 1% and I'll explain why later). In fact, David was a really weird guy himself. The whole time I couldn't help but think, there's something incredibly inauthentic about this person. And everytime I ask him something it's like he acts as if I shouldn't be asking him the questions I'm asking.
In fact, David himself told us that he didn't brand himself because "he had other companies he was a part of." This statement is EXTREMELEY weird - like, ok so you don't let your other investments know that you're a part of MOBE because what woud they do if they found out??? I just thought this was incredibly fishy, but he phrased in a way that left you hanging with no real info to chew on.
I could seriously write on for days about how this whole seminar was TOTALLY vague, 50% of it was David talking about how cool his life was, and the other 50% was about showing videos of other people driving fancy cars and having a life of luxury. It was very strategically crafted to keep you wondering.
There were also a lot of mental manipulation techniques used: For example, David told us, we don't tolerate negativity here, because that doesn't get you far in business. So, if you show us you're negative, we won't have a problem asking you to leave. Most of us could agree with the statement that negativity breeds negativity and is unnecessary for the most part. But really this manipulation technique is used because they don't want you to have a healthy level of SKEPTICISM. I would ask questions and confide in them that I was a bit skeptical of the process and wanted to understand what people had to do in order to be successful so that I could be confident in what MOBE had to offer. I was usually met with either annoyance, or they would say things like, "It doesn't take any GUTS to be a skeptic." David ended day two with telling us to "google 20/20's interview on the BBB." This technically was another way of saying, "We are rated an F on BBB and I could see on your iphone that you were looking that up but that's only because we don't pay to be a member of the BBB." There's technically some truth about this in regards to the BBB...but that doesn't disqualify you from being a shady company.
I went home that night just thinking, ok, I'm going to do a LOT of research on this company to see what's really going on here. Turns out the internet saves the day!
I dug up more and more stories of mine. In the end, here's what I think about MOBE:
I think it is actually possible to make money at MOBE if you can check off ALL of the following boxes: 1) You joined MOBE when it started back around 2011 or soon thereafter AND 2) you were already a millionare/could invest $60k without any financial risk to you in the event you lost it AND 3) you already had about 10 years of internet marketing experience AND 4) out of that 10 years you already had some level of moderate to high-level success in internet marketing. But even then, success for you would ALSO mean that you were only successful because hard-working people lost their money to you.
Not only that, if you are truly a part of this MOBE, it's not about providing anything of real, actual value. It's about getting other people to sign up and give over their money. It's a true pyramid/ponzi/get-rich scheme.
Here's the other thing, the company doesn't operate in America. It originally operated in Australia, then realized it had to avoid the laws there, moved it's address to the UK, then had to avoid laws there, and I believe it now operates out of Malaysia. MOBE has successfully navigated the appropriate legal loopholes in order to not be classified as an illegal company. For this I am impressed.
BTW, no one is paying me to write this story. I am doing this in the hopes that others can read my story and save their hard-earned money. I'm so embarrased that I fell for the 3-day home business summit that I can't even tell my husband. I'm so ashamed. I will from now on be investigating companies before I hand over money. I'm also disputing the $497 with my credit card company in the hopes they will refund me.
Even though I can confidently say that you CAN be the 1% of people who make big $$ with MOBE if and only if you are already a successful online marketer before joining the company, I don't know how you could morally pride yourself every night when you go to sleep knowing that you made big bucks from MOBE because hard-working people lost their money to you.
NO one is paying me to write this story. I'm telling it because I don't want hard-working people to lose their money. My heart goes out to all the people (approx 50-70% of people there) who actually paid MOBE anywhere between $2500-$63000 yesterday. I feel it's my moral obligation to tell my story.
I went to a workshop a workshop. They didn't tell what the workshop was on. Showed us a couple clips. On how to earn income using the internet. I signed up for gold membership. They contact me that evening. Then I started course I was at step 4 I did answered questions. She called me and told me after step 5 it wasn't teaching me anything else.
I needed to pay more before the workshop. Was called the business summit. I went to the three day course they make you feel like it's the best program to make money from. Alot of people spent money that day. But then I got home a email was sent to me saying I have a business back page office. I can now start making return.
Then I went on had nothing They took advantage of my mind and told me lies while trying to take more from me. I thought because she called me on the phone that was building a relationship. She would be a good mentor. I have low self-esteem and money issues.
MOBE has scammed millions of dollars from thousands of elderly and disabled vets. We have created a group in FB to come together and fight for our money back..If you have been scammed by Mobe please come join us. MOBE REFUND GROUP ON FB
Went to an information meeting in Jan. 2018. Decided to give it a try and bought into their 3 day course for $500. Feb2-4, 2018.
It was call Matt Lloyd' 3 Day Home Business Summit. Held at the DoubleTree Hotel in Anaheim, Ca. We showed up on Feb. 2nd, day 1. That day we got a booklet that was called the program catalog. That catalog talked about the mision statement, the stages of business, compensation program and all the levels that you could sign up for with the cost of each level and the rewards. That took almost the whole day. Day 2 again sold you on fluff and had you go to sign up to see if you qualified for there grant/loan program. I got an appt towards the end of the day. I didn't qualify for it. Day 3 we really did learn anything. It was a half day and the only people who could stay for the rest were the people who qualified for the grant/loan. The rest of us were told to leave.
We were told to read the book that we got at the initial 2 hour seminar. We also received a canva bag with several workbooks that we would go thru at the 3 day. Never touched those workbooks. They pitch about buying in to the bigger picture.
Anybody got a class action going? I would love to join.
On May 21, 2018 I signed up for a silver masterclass in mobe for $3,009.00. I was told that after I did the 21 steps as a entryway to the company. That I would be taught how to traffic online and help sell the product and make money as well. I signed up for mobe inspirations convincing me to signup. If I did the work I would get paid. I went to check up on the progress to see where I was because I just finished the 21 steps and everything is gone. Then I find out it was all a scam I want, no I need my money back. I have all my emails, notes and invoice recipe from this.
I was promised that I would be able to start my own online business from home by purchasing their online training programs, in return once I finished the online training I would receive large commissions in payment through sales of their educational products. The court ordered the the Federal Trade Commission to close down the company MOBE and its owner Matt Mcphee Lloyd and freeze all of his accounts because an investigation into the company proved that this was an online fraudulant educational business and any person who had purchased the online traing was fraudulantly taken advantage of and would not be able to complete the online traing nor start up their own online business.
I was told I had a month to cancel should I not want this program. I contacted my contact there to find out how I should cancel. He emailed me a link that was not in service. Found my receipt and the number provided there; left three messages. Never received a call back and can find no way to cancel this. Now 30 days have passed and I have no refund.
This company is fraudelent; do not get pulled in.
If there is an IL class action lawsuit, or a national one, count me in.
Crooks, all.
I signed up for MOBE about a few weeks i was on step 10 all in a sudden i can not get to thier page, and no one to talk to. I went to thier weeb site and i found thier phone number and i been calling almost everyday living massages and no respond. I have reported to BBB. and no respond to thier complaint.I need help to get my money back thanks.
I"m so upset I have no idea what to say!!
*I'm so angry. My mother is a very responsible person. did everything right. now she's losing her house and everything she owns because of MOBE. theyre so deceiving. just kept pushing her to give more and more. now they're being investigated and my mother has cashed out of her stock. refinanced her house. and now can't afford to live here anymore. is losing he home at 70 years old thinking if she did everything they said that she'd be a millionaire. This is F**king nuts. How did this happen?? what do I do now??*
March 2018, in San Francisco, U.S.A., MattLloyd's MOBE firstly told us to pay $600.00 and teach us to learn earning money On line at a 3-day seminar. But for 3 days they changed the words. They didn't tell a single word about On line business, but to sell us his Silver-Gold, Platinum and Diamond membership and requested us to pay about $8,000 and more as Affliliate, And we need to seduce more members and tell them they would become millionaire if they pay and join the MLM, the Pyramid to sell nothing. They also told us to send E-mail to English-speaking Asian countries such as India, Pakistan etc. because the people there are more easily to be lured to join the MLM of MODE.
I foolishly fell for an online scam that promises to teach you how to make money on the internet. I signed up for a 21 step program that stated I could be refunded my money anytime if I were unhappy . They charged me 97$ and took it from my account . I sent an email to the coach that got ahold of my order . Stating that I had been had. The money was redeposited. Then I decided to give it a fair shot . The money was again taken out . By the second step I completely figured out what this company was doing and how the people were Getting rich . I opted out with a statement of why. Was told to contact support yet never received any responses. A week later the entire records for these transactions were wiped off my banking statements as if it never happened and so were the 97$
I am not the only one taken into this MOBE opportunity that cost me $16,000 and got $200
I join MOBE one year ago and was NOT TOLD that what I need to succeed, will need to have several thousand dollars, but the coaches told me that all I needed $50 to $100, at the time to be successful, to be able to make good money, what a lie and deception.
I am 70 and on social security making only $650 a month, and join with credit cards only.
And trusting the guidance I spend over $3,000 on solo ads and facebook, and extra coaching, and all I got $200.
Then few months ago I decide to stop wasting money that I do not have, and realized I need to go bankrupt not my first choice.
So I send more then one message to Matt asking him since I am an artist if he would buy one or more of my under the ocean painting that will fit perfectly in his Costa Rica resort so that money he can use it has a tax right off and I could minimized the credit card charges.
But Matt is too busy traveling and is NOT TRUE that he makes him self available to any one in his organization.
I know that I am not the only one disappointed in MOBE and with Matt Lloyd. I cannot commend this MOBE opportunity to any one unless they have lots of money and have more tech skills.
This is a scam, and more need to learn more before they get trap in the Promise of able to make lots of money like they make you believe.
I came across a site which promises to give you $500.00 if you watch the (long!) video to the end. That was the 1. lie. Towards the end Matt Lloyd counts down the last 10 min. again claiming you get the money. That was the 2. lie. He goes on to say that the job is so easy a child can do it & explains that we will post links on Facebook. He promises that you will make $100.00 on your first day in 30 min. that was the 3. lie. I signed up to work from home & paid $47.00 to get started. After I paid I was lead from one video to the next, reading all night long only to find out that I needed a Coach and that there were 21 steps to learn. He went on to say, that if you don't make money with his system he will give you, you guessed it... $500.00!
I spoke to my Coach who asked me why I wanted my own business??? That was my 2. clue that I was being misled, since I never signed up for that. Then she tells me that each of the 21 steps takes 1 day to learn. So much for making $100.00 on your 1. day! Then she tells me that at step 7 I will have to spend $2000.00 to get a business license! At this point it is clear that not only will I not make money before 3 weeks, but I'll have to spend more money, which was not at all what I signed up for. I contacted Matt Lloyd on numerous occasions, explaining the above and requesting my $500.00, only to be ignored. This is an obvious scam and I am asking that you investigate this man. Here is the info I have: [email protected] AskMattLloyd.com www.mobe.com Mobe support 1844-662-3787
Thanks
Thank you so much for this!! I signed up a couple days ago and immediately regretted paying the 50 dollars. I couldn’t find any information on how to get ahold of the company to get a refund until I saw this so thank you for helping me get my money back!
Was offered a post link business on the internet at home business
Matt Lloyd and his company has charged my credit card twice now and does not want to refund any money back even though I did not want to and was told by his trainer that I do not have my heart in it and so I they would not let me complete these steps. I am 68 years old and I recently retired because of my health. I also take care of my x-husband because of his health and he is the father of my children. I purchased this because I wanted to learn more about how to make money online but now I can't get them to stop charging my credit card. My bills are quite a bit and I have a mortgage also. This is a rip off.
I belived that the system would make me a wealthy woman so I used the suggested funding process and got the funding and purchased leads twice, was able to get a little over $4,000 in commissions. I thought I was all set but then found out that the only way to make commissions is to purchase more leads and I didn't have enough free money to purchase anymore leads and now I am in such credit card debt that I will be filing for bankruptcy soon. I absolutely feel I have been scammed although MOBE appears to be a well organized, systematic business. It just didn't work for me. The leads I purchased remain mine for the rest of my life, but I choose not to do anymore with the business knowing it won't work anymore unless I buy more leads and I can't do that.
Tumelo Molefhe is a nightmare to deal with. Whatever you do, never buy anything online, offline or remotely related to this person.
She is a MOBE affiliate and is trying to fool people to grow her business. She is not only a shady seller but also a shady buyer of products and service. If she buys from you, you’re not going to see that money in your bank.
....and above that you’ll always have to go above and beyond to serve her unrealistic needs.
I repeat: she is a MOBE or my online business empire affiliate and she must not be bought from or you’re going to regret any money spent with her for the rest of your live.
Name: TUMELO B MOLEFHE AKA Barbara Molefe
Email address: [email protected]
Location: GABORONE South-East Botswana
This is an affiliate program in which trhe affiliates go through several training programs on webinars, have different coaches who are supposed to help you to sell MOBE's steps & programs on social media. The tuition was $61000.00 & will not be refunded unless 5 sales are made. There is not enough coaching on every aspect, as wastokdto participantsin a 3-day workshop. Additionally, there have bern 2 charges to my credit card that I do not recognize, nor approve. One wasm$2112.83 on 11/22/17 for MIBE mastermind and another one for$3100.00 on 12/18/17 stated a*s SummitMarketing Pros. I did not attend either of these events.
Misinformed, omission of the terms of upgrades and tell you after otherwise that using an installment plan doesn’t give me benefit of the upgrade licensing right to be able to sell to a consumer and make 3300 per Sale and most importantly the 5 extra training sessions which was the reason I agreed to the installment plan bec I need to learn more as I’m working on my Ads since I don’t have experience, until I pay it off. The traffic coach Wayne Gosse told me if I upgrade from silver to titanium I was going to have 5 more sessions with him to teach me more about driving traffic such as placing Ad on Facebook, for the 21 step program. However the bad part about this coaching sessions is he just sends me links to go to figure things out on my own has never really gave me help as a coach only that he lied about the upgrade doing a three month installment to get more sessions and I’ve already paid for the down payment, and the inner circle news letter $2,968 total.
I even email customer support about getting me another coach because he’s never provided the help I needed. I have proof of that too. After him telling me the true facts of the terms of this installment few days later since I paid the down payment I asked him I won’t upgrade anymore as I’ll be paying them worth almost $10,000 extra with this upgrade and not have the benefit he mentioned until it’s paid off. He nonchalantly told me to call customer support for the refund. I have proof of this discussion to on skype I never delete or erase anything tht is important and right now it is serving me well as I have concrete evidence to prove this issue.
The trouble begins as it’s been months of emailing and calling back and forth for the refund. Only the prorated inner circle $968 was refunded after months of debacle. The $2000 downpayment they just stopped responding and at this point I’m in so much debt max out my card working my a*s off to make this work still. The whole so called affiliate program to drive traffic to their site to sell to consumers is the same program I’ve invested in and go through what I went through to start. Their video sales marketing says you will make 1200, 3300,5500, and 10,000 without having to talk to people and with doing only few hours of work they do the rest but ever since I started in June 2017, I have never worked and put in so much hours and sleep less nights to figuring out how to work everything and waiting for consumers who opted in my ads who are from different countries with different time zone to talk to them about the 21 step program, their sales pitch in the first and second workshop, IM Freedom workshop and Home business Summit is we don’t have to talk to people we just drive traffic n get paid and no experience needed.
I was promoting their WiFi millionaire system.After figuring the program training on my own with their outdated videos I and other colleagues were not informed about the extra costs we will be doing placing Ads on Facebook which in only a few months put me in again so much debt over 10,000 in debt, all of which I can prove from my Facebook ads manager billing history, and other credit cards I used for so much more. I even made sure I had a legitimate business filed for business license, certificates and bank account for it and a P.O. box address. Cost me almost 1,000. One of the red flags I’ve experienced was when I asked my sponsor (the person’s ad that I clicked to join MOBE) Rosanna Tello, about my address she told me to make it up. What reputable affiliates in a company that teaches people to make-up stuff.
Such as a proper business address. I pay yearly to usps to have a P.O. BOX address for business. Phone calls from customers in other countries in my phone statement, another proof. By the way. I am also appalled that in the beginning we were not informed of the additional resources we need to use to create have a domain, an auto responder email company, and clickfunnel. These extras are monthly recurring bills including a monthly affiliate fee of $19.95, except the godaddy domains which you pay yearly. Lastly the long battle of refunds for months that one was never resolved only the prorated $806 for the inner circle I have email proof of them sending me separate email for each refunds to sign or fill up so they can refund me but never got a respond from them ever since about the $2,000.
What commissions I did make from willing consumers that still want to take the risk on investing in the company, the frozen it because of the titanium upgrade that I have been battling for months. I have about $1,600. Someone called me and let me know about this issue and again I have proof on skype that he was going to look into it again(which he never did) and has stopped responding to my messages for an update of this another dilemma. His name is Muhammad Bilal. Also, they have a Facebook group for us affiliates and when people start venting their issues somehow after a few hours or day, these FB convos are deleted, the host of this Facebook group is called Matt Doyll. However I have a few snapshots I was able to take as evidence in these FB conversations before they were deleted.
Lastly the worst part of it all is realizing there’s really no product to sell, in order to get commissions we are pretty much recruiting as many people and the 21 step program which has many names by the way to make it seem new when it’s the same "product”, a so called product that is really a disguise as a way to bait desperate people (like me) to Work at home and a promised few hours of work only to put in when that’s not the case. I have corresponding emails from customers that I unfortunately cannot in conscience sell their bait product because what I was going through and what they’re doing is wrong and illegal and I couldn’t bare to put someone thru tht especially if they don’t have financial stability to invest so I pretty much turned them down and explained to them the reality of this company and u need to do to work and earn.
In the MOBE back office for us members it even has a feature that’s called "downline” downline sales” with names of people who have been recruited when they purchased the bait product through my Ad. That’s when I put things together and accept the fact that I have joined a hidden pyramid scheme business. I also Skyped with other MOBE people who were referred to me by colleagues who said they might be of help with all my problems, their names are Jarrel Benjamin and Susan Zanghi. Also have a skype evidence of our conversation that went nowhere. In a few of my emails I even Ccd the CEO Matt Lloyd and the people involved in this problem, I hoped that the CEO will investigate this as I still was wishing he seemed like a reliable man, never once has he replied. This is my experience with MOBE.
I hope this will not go unnoticed as I discovered many others are experiencing same issues and the same pattern of actions From the people at MOBE. to anyone who has or had a problem with the company, please don’t stay quiet. One or two people’s voices are not as loud as hundred and thousands of us banding together. Make sure you have concrete evidence as I have. Message me to make a difference not only on your lives and well being but also the well being of other people in the future so they won’t have to go through what we have gone through. Take action by calling and filing a complaint with your attorney general in your state u live in and the FTC. Pyramid scheme disguised as business is breaking the US Law. It’s time we stand up for what’s right just like the people who stood up to Wells Fargo bank and get rightful justice.
They sent me an email saying that there is a way for me to make money online, they start with this video saying watch this video completely all the way through for $500 when I am done watching the video. never happened, never got the $500, they just wanted my $47 to start the 21 steps. they promised me if I start the course that I will receive Matt Lloyd's hard copy book in the mail after step 3, never happened, in his webinar in step 5, it is mandatory for you to take that webinar before you can move on to step 6,One of the products that they offered was to earn while I learn, but that product does not exist none of their Associates know anything about that they just want more money. Yes I would like to join the class action lawsuit.
MOBE consultants are pushed to make money off commissions for recruiting more MOBE consultants, and all the financial educational material that consultants are expected to buy is geared to earning big commissions through the recruitment of fellow consultants. It is emphasized again and again that the best way to quickly make money with MOBE is to go into debt, if necessary, in order to buy into the highest Diamond Mastermind consultant level, which costs $61K.
They will offer you a special loan with their company-related credit card based on your business experience and financial situation. You also have the option to buy into one of the other five lower levels, but if you then recruit people into consultant levels higher than your own, you will lose most of your recruiting commissions to your upline, which could be several levels above you.
I paid more than $2000 to try and start my MOBE business buying their training programs and then trying to promote my own sales which to date has never occurred. MOBE is a ripoff misleading a potential entrepreneur in to thinking they could make a lot of money which never came true.
I have been ripped off by Mobe Matt LLoyd and they have different sites you dont know what it is until you get hookd and then its Mobe They took more money than they should have I didnt want all that you can spend alot on these sites They advertize you make big money but that is a scam
On December 27, 2016 I submitted an Email request to Grant McDonnell who work for Matt Lloyd of MOBE and its 21STEP PROGRAM. I had rquested my refund amount on this day at 4:25PM to these men and thier company for my refund of merely $49.00 starter program fee. After looking at the Program and seeing that it was not a 7 Step Program as advertised, but later became a 21Step Program and this was the fee amount to get started. I submitted my Online Order information as requested with no results. I have repeatedly email Matt LLoyd and Grant MCDonnel(my assigned coach) but neither have replied nor have I still not received my refund which theire ofice said it would re sbumitt within 4 days. Its past 4 days and still No REFUNd from this Program. This is let other know that this company nor its so called business affiliates are reptubale nor ethical with business prcatices. Research before joining!
I purchased MOBE 21 step program for $50 after seeing an add on how to make loads of money gauranteed or else they would pay you $500. I purchased the program which doesnt show you anything other than introducing their other products you actually would have to buy in order to make that money. During the 21 steps youre supposed to receive coaching which I had no response from my coach after several attempts. Once getting to step 6,it offers you the oppurtunity to purchase the program to start making money. Had I know it would cost more money I wouldnt have bought it in the firt place. So I took the bait and bought the program for $1197. Still had no coaching or tools to help me utilize what I purchased. After getting into the later steps in 20 and 21 I learn then you have to invest even more money to start making money. I never made one cent from this program because it kept asking me to invest more money to get to the higher level of the program also and then I dawned on me to read the reviews and I found others saying exactly the same thing. Its a scam. If anyone knows how to sue this company please let me know.
This was another classic case of what is being said is too good to be true. I had been trying to find a good alternative to my regular income while off on disability for my knee replacement surgery and found this. Poked around a little bit about Matt and company but obviously not nearly enough! Had some complications with my rehabilitation and was trying to get ahold of my coach or the main manager guy over my coach for alternative way of contacting them and couldn't get answer from either since Skype wasn't jiving with my tablet. Since getting things back in order I tried again and finally got a response back. But after replying to response and letting support know my issue, I decided to do a little more poking around and found the link below filling me in on what a crock of crap this is!! http://savvybloke.com/mobe/
MY STORY WITH MOBE AND MATT Lloyd. By William John Internet Marketing. I have been told by a representative of MOBE that what I have written here is lies is defamatory is libellous and slanderous and I am being unreasonable. Everything below is fact and is a true account of myself and Mobe.
APPROX one year ago I joined a company called MOBE I joined for the price advertised which was $49 for this price I got a so called coach and a 21 video course only two video's are opened at any one time after about video 4 or 5 I was asked for a payment the coach told me that I would have to pay APPROX $3,500 he also told me that would be all I would have to pay, bells should have started ringing after all I joined at the advertised price of $49 this was catch number one. After completing the 21 video steps which just concentrated on selling this scam to other people, I was told the full price for this program was $30,000 catch number two, such a ridiculous price was out of my range for anything especially for something bought of the internet, I was not told upfront the full cost of joining MOBE so I decided to ask for a refund on the grounds that I had not been told the full cost upfront, I applied for a refund which in my mind seemed fair enough any legitimate company could see I had a valid point, I received an email from MOBE support telling me I was not entitled to a refund catch number three.
To be entitled to a refund a member of MOBE must produce the email they joined with and must advertise for one year with three types of paid advertising catch number four; this is the key to this scam Matt Lloyd who owns MOBE knows that unless again told upfront no person is going to keep the email they joined MOBE with and the advertising for one year is going to cost more than the money a person may be owed so this is what Matt Lloyd is counting on that people will think it’s not worth going on with their claim for a refund I suggest Matt Lloyd has scammed more money this way than he has made selling his high ticket priced programs. Most countries and states already have legislation in place to cover such refund claims Matt Lloyd must think he is something special if he thinks he has the right to override government agencies I say he does not have any such rights to ignore any county’s law. For all the people out there who have been scammed by MOBE and that is thousands upon thousands don’t give up on your money flood the appropriate agencies with complaints so they have to do something about this thief who has stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from us.
Approximately one year ago Matt Lloyd advertised that he had made one hundred million dollars with MOBE that is money that belongs to people like you and I so let’s do something to get our money back. Matt Lloyd has been very clever putting this together but if you look at it, it soon becomes clear that each step of his refund policy has been thought out to make sure his customers get scammed if they invest any money at all into MOBE. Matt Lloyd does not have a refund policy he does have a high paying SCAM policy, please be aware any money you spend with Matt Lloyd is money you will not see again. But it is not just his customers who should be aware of Matt Lloyd and MOBE one affiliate who is owed over $50,000 has had his access to MOBE blocked this man has made a short video so that unsuspecting members of the public can see how Matt Lloyd treats at least this affiliate you can play his video below to see this for yourself there is also a link to other people who have been scammed by this company. Any person contemplating buying this over priced knowledge is going to Pay $30,000 for information they can get off the internet for a very small cost and can even get the same information free from (wealthy affiliate).
I have tried to negotiate a refund but I am expected to sign a legal document that I do not agree with in other words a gag order they have no chance my story is just that my story and I will publish it for all to see in the hope I can help prevent others from being scammed by MOBE and Matt Lloyd. Matt Lloyd has offered me my money back subject to me signing a legal document that I am not prepared to sign, this document is in fact a gag order and I will not have my right to free speech interfered with by Matt Lloyd or anyone else also there is a $25,000 clause in it. This offer to refund my money is proof that Matt Lloyd scammed me and he does not want me to post my story for anyone to read the legal document I refer to is below for you all to read. The offer of my money back is because I told Matt Lloyd I was going to post my story. All other people who have lost their money with MOBE in the same way I have, should also post their story to show unsuspecting people what they can expect from MOBE and Matt Lloyd. Every person who has been scammed by mobe the same way I was should have their money refunded without any conditions. In Matt Lloyds words 98% who buy into Mobe do not make any money and that is 98% who have been scammed by Mobe because they were not told the cost upfront and not told the so called refund policy, Matt Lloyd has to scam people because who would buy into Mobe if they knew the full cost and the refund policy upfront.
Please read the links below and see others scammed by Mobe and Matt Lloyd. youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2KLOGEVeY waystoavoidscamsonlie.com/scam-alets#comment Because I will not sign my rights away Matt Lloyd who stole my money without any legal documents Is still holding on to my money, he must be in real need of my $3,420 AUS. You can write to me ([email protected]) better still post your story on social media. William John Thomas Settlement Agreement And Mutual Release This settlement Agreement and release (‘’ Agreement’’) is made and entered into by and between MOBE, LTD. (‘’ MOBE ’’) and William John Thomas (‘’Student’’). And is effective as of sometimes referred to herein individually as ‘’party’’ or collectively as the ‘’parties’’. Recitals A Student entered into an agreement with MOBE where MOBE was to provide business Educational training. b Student and MOBE have mutually agreed to part ways; c The parties seek now to settle and release claims against one another d Student must sign and return this Agreement to MOBE by September 23, 2016 or the offer herein will expire. Agreemen Incorporation of recitals – the recitals set forth above are incorporated into this agreement MOBE promises and obligations under this agreement – MOBE promises to refund student Two thousand four hundred ninety seven US dollars and no cents (USD$2,497.00) via wire transfer to the bank account student designates, no less then seven days after student returns this signed release to MOBE and complies with removal requirements set out below 1. Student’s promise and obligations under this agreement – Student promises and agrees to keep this agreement and all terms, conditions and obligations in the agreement confidential. Student agree to assist MOBE if necessary to ensure there are no issues with a merchant processor or banking institution. Student agrees to remove any and all negative online post regarding MOBE. In addition, Student agrees not to make any future negative posts or comment about MOBE. Student agree to only communicate , the following statement with regard to this statement: ‘’Student and MOBE have resolved their differences’’ Student agree to be bound by a permanent injunction without a need to post bond in the event any breach of this Agreement occurs. Students agree to forgive and waive completely any and all claims asserted or unasserted, known or unknown, against MOBE that accrued up to the time of the signing of this agreement. Student agrees to contact any regulatory body where a complaint may have been lodged regarding the disputes between the parties and notify them the disputes have been resolved. Please warn all your friends about this scam William John Thomas.
Advertisement- "No risk to you" - Result - After you have purchased the product the original ad is null and void you sign a contract agreeing to a one year active trial period. The oldest con game in the business. Bait and switch. I was dumb enought to fall for it. Shame on me, but I want to warn others.
Been trying to work with Mobe to get my funds back and they are stupid and will not help and refund my money. I agree to be charged $49.00 and they charged me $3,297.00. WTF... They are a bad company and should not be a good campany to do business with.
They promise you one thing, sign your name on items, and then screw you over and would not give me a refund after they have a money back guarntee.
A request was made to MOBE'S support desk on April 27, 2016 for a refund of MLR-Mobes License Rights was requested when the plaintiffs husband was hospitalized
The plaintiff is legally blind, and unable to support herself, and went into this educational program to learn how to make more money other than the disability check her family is unable to live off of. When her husband was unexpectedly admitted to the hospital, she made a special plea for the refund asap, and all attempts have been denied because they refuse to look at the special circumstance
MOBE Support - Catherine
I received the additional information you submitted. According to the terms of the refund you are not eligible for a refund because you haven’t worked the business for a full 12 months.
Once you have consistently implemented the marketing strategies according to the refund policy you may resubmit your request
In order to be eligible for the refund policy you need to have 12 months of consistant proof. I suggest you go review TMA and implement the strategies found in that course.
Please keep in mind you have complete access to TMA (Traffic Masters Academy), our daily traffic coaching webinars which are live with Q&A sessions, as well as our daily power up calls. These resources have been found invaluable to many new marketers and I would urge you to learn the materials in the TMA, as well as attend as many of the webinars and calls you can.
Best wishes
The plaintiff will undoubtedly lose her home if these funds are not returned to her, because the program she entered has NOT made her any money as it claims. MOBE refuses any special circumstances, and she has stated numerous times how she does NOT have 12 months because she cannot survive on the disability check she currently makes, and was expecting to make money from the course she thought would change her life
Matt Lloyd needs to live up to his claim of willingness to help his affiliates. Instead he has turned out to be a dyslexic Robin Hood - "Stealing from the Poor and Giving to the Rich" Matt Lloyd does NOT care about those who try to succeed with his program, he only cares about those who can afford the much more expensive higher listed programs, and the man is only obsessed with his millions, not those who try to succeed and are struggling - Stear clear of this Affiliate Program