Gateway classic cars -dallas is part of a national operation of several locations all over the usa and they specialize in marketing and selling classic automobiles that are placed at their location on consignment by the actual car owners
This is where the scam begins because gateway classic cars has no money to lose and/or at risk while they market the cars, they write the ad listings and they take the photos and videos while they take a position that they can't be held liable for any misrepresentations because they don't own the cars.
The consignors of the cars basically take the same position that they can't be held liable because they didn't place the ads, take the photos and videos and any misleading representation are that of gateway classic cars so, consequently when you as a buyer buy a car from and through gateway classic cars at any of their locations, you have no body to hold liable the way they operate this operation.
During the first week of july 2021, i began sending emails to gateway classic cars-dallas c/o steve west who is listed as a sales leader at the dallas tx location and based on the photos and the lsiting which described a pampered and babied low milaege classic 2007 mustang shelby gt-500 and after speaking with mr. West i made an offer of $32,500 out the door plus t.T.&l and he accepted the offer. I also requested a copy of the car fax on the car which he sent and it shows no accidents reported and its a garage kept, non smokers car so i figured it was a primo, grade #1 mustang shelby gt-500 that needed nothing!
Mr. West requested that i give him a credit card deposit for $1,000 and i told him i would however not as a non refundable deposit in case something would go wrong with the deal on their end and he agreed.
The total price including t.T.&l was to be $34,734.07 and i made arrangements for the balance in full to be sent via ach on monday 07/19/2021 through my credit union.
In the meantime, steve west agreed to send me all the hard final prepared documents to me for my review and execution so i would have a copy of the originals and so would they. These were received saturday 07/17/2021 before the ach was to occur so, i could review and change my mind if something needed changed or corrected.
During this same weekend, i noticed something very disturbing on the only photo showing the rear of the car which showed the shelby gt striping completely missing from the lower rear valance of the car.
I sent steve west a text and email first thing monday morning 07/19/2021 stating that we have an issue because there was shelby gt striping missing on the car so, the fact the car fax i relied upon stating no accidents now is highly in question because striping just doesn't fall off of a car.
Mr. West acted confused and concerned too and said he would get right on top of it and contact the consignor Car owner) to see what he says.
Keep in mind that this is the same day the ach was set to hit gateway classic cars account and out of my account so i wanted this issue resolved to my satsifaction or i would cancel the deal.
The day went by and it wasn't until the day was over that steve west sent me a text saying the consignor says the car was like that when he bought it 2 years earlier and it must've just fallen off or came off at the car wash or something? Hogwash is what i said!!!
A car that has supposedly been babied and pampered and garage kept usually gets hand washed and hand waxed and doesn't go to car washes.
I told steve west that i didn't buy a mustang shelby gt 500 where some of the striping is missing and i now question if this car was in a wreck and had the rear valance replaced and they just never replaced the striping because you have to buy the whole stripe kit for the whole car and not just part of the kit.
I never heard anymore from steve west until this morning, 07/22/2021 when he sent an email to me now that all my funds have cleared their account and i am out the money and they still have the car and he stated that neither he, gateway classic cars or the consignor were going to do anything and i bought the car as-is and the deal was now final and i have no recourse.
The steve west had someone named anthony freeman send me a few emails from the st louis mo. Offices telling me basically the same thing that the deal is final and i bought it as-is and that i have no recourse!.
I learned later in the day that a shawn beach who is cfo and coo for corporate has an email so i advised him as well what was going on and how i've been treated on this matter. He never responded!
I've also advised all three people involved with this transaction that i was recinding the deal and that i haven't accpted possession nor will i accept possession and i made d deamnd that the full amount of $34,734.07 be wired back to my account and i provided them with my routing and my account number and demanded it be back in my account by the end of today at close of business.
Reasons to recind the deal include: false and misleading advertising in order to deceive into the transaction, deceptive fair trade, fraud and many other deceptive practices as well as serious questions about the carfax showing no accidents because shelby gt striping doesn't just fall off the car???
Additionally, i have now discovered there are (18) other complaints right here on scamionagainst various locations of gateway classic cars as well as complaints and negative reviews all over the internet about this company both from consignors who got cheated to innocent buyers such as myself who believed this was a legitimate company and not a license to steal in the way they conduct their business.
Do yourself a favor and do your research on this organization and check them out by all the negative reviews all over the internet, here on scamion, better business bureaus etc etc.
My advice is hold on to your money and steer clear from this entire organization.
PEOPLE, PAY ATTENTION. Gateway Classic Cars has very questionable business practices. I wanted to list my 1970 SS El Camino with this company in the fall of 2020. I called and asked all the question about the process. They tell you what you want to hear, and then they send you a contract. Like most people, I really wanted to sale my car, and was willing to pay a fair commission to have someone else do it.
In short, paragraph 1 of the contract is all about getting you ready for the game, it is called "NET AMOUNT". This is where you agree to the, and let me quote "Initial net amount for the sale of the vehicle". "This amount is also referred to as Net To Owner". There is some other wording in this paragraph, but here is and I quote the wording you need to understand: "Any amount earned over final written Net To Owner amount will be retained by Consignee as commission."
Now, we can move on to paragraph 2 of the Gateway Classic Car contract. Minimum Consignment Commission. I am going to quote the part you need to read and understand. "The minimum consignment commission retained by the consignee will be $2,500 or 12.5% of the sale price, whichever is greater". "The consignee reserves the right to charge a buyer's Fee up to 12.5% of the sale price, although this does not create any agency relationship between the Consignee and the buyer, and the Consignee is not acting as a broker for the buyer.".
Just to make a few things clear. The buyers premium is included in the asking price of any vehicle price you see posted for a vehicle sold by Gateway Classic Cars.
Now, stop and read the above comments over and over until you are blue in the face and think you have understood paragraph one and two of the Gateway Classic Car contract.
Now I will explain how this worked for me. I arrived for my appointment to deliver my car to the Atlanta show room. My appointment was with Dennis Vanterpool. Dennis went over the contract with me. He pulled Chris Hicks into the process when we were trying to agree to the Net to Owner price. We agreed that if we went with $35,000 as the Net to Owner, the car would be listed for just under $40,000. We knew there would be some potential negotiating before it was over, but we all agreed this price would bring potential buyers.
Two weeks later, I called Dennis to find out why my car was never listed on the company website, or any of the sites they say it will be listed. Dennis was unaware the car was not listed, and said he would call me back. One week passes, and no return call from Dennis, so I call the show room and spoke to Chris Hicks. He told me he was just about ready to call me, yea right..... You see at that point my car was pulled outside for photos, but they could not get it started again. I drove three hours back to Atlanta the next day to find they had run the battery dead trying to start the 454 Blower motor.
After showing Chris how to start a motor like this, we were back on track to get the car listed. A few days later, my car was listed, and much to my shock, it was listed at $46,000. Now do the math, that makes it 32% over the Net To Owner. Now they have me because the Gateway Classic Car contract states they have the right to list the car at any price. I called Dennis, and asked him about the listing price. He told me corporate set the listing price. He then told me that it was only after he did the paperwork on my car that he learned that every car was listed at 32+% of the Net to Owner because they have expenses of running a business.
I told him my contact stated 12.5% commission, but he pointed to the contract that states they can list for any price above the Net to Owner price. Dennis wrote a letter to Gateway Classic Cars owner and copied me on email. Dennis told the owner that what they were doing was confusing and wrong. Dennis was no longer employed after that. After many unanswered phone calls, I found myself talking to Chis Rockwell at Gateway Classic Cars Corporate. His solution to the problem was for me to lower my Net To Owner, so they could lower the asking price. I refused, so he agreed to lower the asking price to $44,000, this would allow them to make just 26% on this sale. Mat car sit on the show room floor in Atlanta until I picked it up at the end of the contract.
I am trying to tell you readers two things. First, if you are going to list a car with Gateway Classic Cars, the commission is not the 12.5% they talk about before you drop off your car. The only way to lower the advertised price, is to reduce your Net to Owner, but the 32% Gateway commission will not be changed. Go back to the quote about paragraph 1 where they talk about "Initial amount" for the Net To Owner. They know the Net To Owner amount is going to change, they count on it.
The second point is for all you buyers. Keep in mind that EVERY advertised price you see from Gateway Classic Cars has a chump bump that could choke a horse!
If you decide to make a purchase here Do Not put any money down until you have the keys to the car you are buying in your hands.
My financing fell through and I was informed that they would not be refunding my deposit, I guess I didn't read the fine print on one of the papers I was signing while we waited on the bank to call back.
In all of my 50 years of buying cars this is by far the worst dealership I have ever dealt with!
My warning for you is if you don't have the money to lose, I'm on disability, and the money I loss was most of my monthly check. Don't Deal With This Dealership!
I am a good honest Christian person. The people at gateway classic cars are cheating people ,as is does not mean you can Lie & steal.
I ask that all good Christian people not buy from Gateway cassics,there are other cassic car places.Please ,please if we all stick together we can stop this kind of fraud.Thanks & God Bless
I paid 22K for my Classic dream truck from Gateway Classic Cars St Louis. They shipped me at my expense a truck that would not start to pull it off the hauler (2 Cells dead in battery). After I paid extra to get it unloaded at a garage they replaced the battery and got it started only to find out the radiator was overflowing with oil.
They put it on the rack and found the cross members, floor pans, and rocker panels were rusted out and rebuilt with silicone than painted black so the undercarriage would look good for the pictures. Brake cylinder including master were all bad. Steering defective. Signal lights broken.
Gateway response after I sent them pictures was sorry we are not responsible AS IS NO WARRANTY. Bottom line I have owned the truck three months and never driven It because it's not safe and I can't afford to have it fixed.
I have been looking at a 1976 corvette from gateway classic cars.
I was told all options worked with exception of the a/c .they told me it blew cool not cold.I also asked about paint told paint was fresh and shined.I asked if there was any leaks again I was told no leaks,I aslo asked about glass told no issues.they also told mr car ran out great!!!!!!
I should have spent the money and flew to see car !!!!!
I would have ran back home without car.However i wired the money in their account . 10 days later i got the car. Itsounding like a tank when they started the enginge it had a flowthu muffler!!! loud sonunds bad.
The paint looked to be at least ten years old with runs dust spots total unprofessional over spray on windows good thing windows were up interior was saved. Went to try a/c hmmmm????? did not blow at all nothing zilch nada?? looking through the drivers window whats this? A scratch 1/4 deep from wipers being operated without a blade....
take the car for a ride felt like drivng on square tires ..slat spotted...
also was huge annoying squeak. Muffler was installed incorectly hmmm? who woulda thunk. LOOK IN PERSON DO NOT TRUST THEM!!!!!!!!
I purchased a 1969 Plymouth roadrunner from the Indiana location of Gateway Classic Cars; they are a consignment house.
I was told on the phone that the car I found on thier website was a restored car in great condition. I must tell you that was not correct; I have driver the car all of 200 miles and have an estimate for $30,000.00 is structural repairs.I understand that I am responsible for buyiny the car but I'm sharing this story only for 1 reason.
do not purchase a vehicle where you have no recourse witht the owner.
Run away from these guys they are bad, bad, bad!!!
Dealer stated that the truck had undergone a complete restoration and all receipts were avaialble. After multiple conversations and repeated assurances of the condition of the unit, we decided to put an offer in and buy the Bronco. During the negotiating I decided to suspend the purchase, the manager called me and talked the Bronco up, assured me of the condition of the unit and dropped the pricing to get the deal settled.
I was supposed to get a copy of the work done as well as all the receipts. Didn't happen for 4 weeks. But they were sure to ask me multiple times through the deal to send money. " Did you send the money." " If you cold wire the money immediately that would be great." Should have been a red flag!!!!
After receiving the unit, and my first look 1200 miles away, I was completely dissatisfied. Contacted the dealer within 5 mnutes of getting it off the truck. Manger was busy. 3 days later after several calls and emails finally got him to return my call. I wasnted to return the car at my own expense but they wouldn't hear of it. Anyone who's in the car business or even my 9year old son can see this unit it is garbage.
The body was FALLING off yes, FALLING off the frame. The interior was hacked appart and piece mealed. Where there was once elctronics wires hung and went no where. The body mounts have been hacked away to fit the headers that are not the correct spec. THe "SHOW QUALITY" paint job is bubbling. The motor has a miss and was idling too fast. The spark box was removed. The steering has 3" of play in it. The rag joint was completely shot. The heater was completely disconnected and rotted out. The heater core is shot. The rears (front and back) that had been newly rebuilt was a complete lie. The front set of gears were 3:73 and rear was 4:11. No locker as described. The rear springs were so shot the truck 2" lower in the rear. The emergency brake was complete broken off, there is no brake. The frame has been cut off in the front and back. There are several other issues with the truck.
I expressed my position with the dealer and the condition of the truck that a 9 year old could have seen that the truck was NOT what was advertised and confirmed by the dealer. I wanted to send the truck back immediately at my cost or have some money for the repairs refunded to me. They said they get back to me.
I had the truck imediately to a garage when I received it and they gave me a quote of $7,500.00 to fix all the issues with the truck. $5,000 was just to make the truck safe to drive. THe dealer flat out lied to get a sale. They were very attentive when it came to closing the deal and getting their money. As soon as an issue was brought to them it was ignored.
Needless to say, I purchased the truck over a month ago and it's still at the shop getting repaired. The dealer basically left me hanging in the wind after they got their money.
I have been writing this letter to you, over the past few months, in my mind. Now I am going to put it down on paper and send it to you.
First, the subject car you sold me is nothing more then a selection of junk yard parts that were collected from other A body MOPARS and assembled on a 1967 Dart GT frame. The car was misrepresented by you and Mr. Ferguson (title owner). There is so much wrong with this car that I don't know where to start, maybe at the beginning would be the best place.
As I told you in my telephone call, there was no "over-drive unit" in the car, as YOUR dealer description noted. The glove box is also missing. A critical chrome piece that is unique to convertibles, is missing. Oh, aren't pictures just great! They can hide or obscure so many things.
And guess what! When I got the vehicle on a lift, there were the blown rear shock absorbers and the leaf springs so fatigued that they could not hold the vehicle in a correct manner when making turns.
So, new shocks have cost me $100.00. And new springs with all of the mounting gear/hardware has been around $450.00!
Oh, and about those NEW tires, they would be great if they were only the right size. The right sized tires just cost me $450.00. That way the sides would not rub on the inside of the rear fender wells. And talking about fender wells...where are the front fender well braces?
Why are the heater hoses plugged on the engine block? Is there something wrong with the heater core?
Yes, I'll agree the "chrome bumpers look great", especially the rear one because it belongs on a 1969 A Body MOPAR not this 1967. Oh, and did you know that I'll be spending an additional $500-$700 for a correct rear bumper? Of course you did, you know what these old car parts cost. I do need rear back-up lights!
None of the front fenders are correct. And the trunk lid is wrong. What wreck did these builders get them from? There are NO "GT" badges on the front grill, fenders nor on the trunk. As a matter of fact, the Trunk molding is missing. The fact is, that there are NO holes in the body/panels for the "GT" medallions to fit into!
And the brakes, yikes!!!!!!!
I love one of your comments that you made in a message to me; "This one is exceptionally clean and freshly restored including a new crate motor.".
FRESHLY: "Revived or reinvigorated".
RESTORED: "To bring back to an original or normal condition".
Well, none of that was done, except the crate motor!
Today! A new day, I rolled down the passenger window and it fell out of it's track! Well, I was going to change all of the locks anyway, because they don't work. So I'll fix the glass problem when I take off the door panels.
Well, I've grown tired of identifying and explaining all of the problems associated with this "1967 Dodge Dart GT Convertible", so I am going to just list everything wrong, damaged or MISSING;
Gateway Classic Cars Reviews
Gateway classic cars -dallas is part of a national operation of several locations all over the usa and they specialize in marketing and selling classic automobiles that are placed at their location on consignment by the actual car owners
This is where the scam begins because gateway classic cars has no money to lose and/or at risk while they market the cars, they write the ad listings and they take the photos and videos while they take a position that they can't be held liable for any misrepresentations because they don't own the cars.
The consignors of the cars basically take the same position that they can't be held liable because they didn't place the ads, take the photos and videos and any misleading representation are that of gateway classic cars so, consequently when you as a buyer buy a car from and through gateway classic cars at any of their locations, you have no body to hold liable the way they operate this operation.
During the first week of july 2021, i began sending emails to gateway classic cars-dallas c/o steve west who is listed as a sales leader at the dallas tx location and based on the photos and the lsiting which described a pampered and babied low milaege classic 2007 mustang shelby gt-500 and after speaking with mr. West i made an offer of $32,500 out the door plus t.T.&l and he accepted the offer. I also requested a copy of the car fax on the car which he sent and it shows no accidents reported and its a garage kept, non smokers car so i figured it was a primo, grade #1 mustang shelby gt-500 that needed nothing!
Mr. West requested that i give him a credit card deposit for $1,000 and i told him i would however not as a non refundable deposit in case something would go wrong with the deal on their end and he agreed.
The total price including t.T.&l was to be $34,734.07 and i made arrangements for the balance in full to be sent via ach on monday 07/19/2021 through my credit union.
In the meantime, steve west agreed to send me all the hard final prepared documents to me for my review and execution so i would have a copy of the originals and so would they. These were received saturday 07/17/2021 before the ach was to occur so, i could review and change my mind if something needed changed or corrected.
During this same weekend, i noticed something very disturbing on the only photo showing the rear of the car which showed the shelby gt striping completely missing from the lower rear valance of the car.
I sent steve west a text and email first thing monday morning 07/19/2021 stating that we have an issue because there was shelby gt striping missing on the car so, the fact the car fax i relied upon stating no accidents now is highly in question because striping just doesn't fall off of a car.
Mr. West acted confused and concerned too and said he would get right on top of it and contact the consignor Car owner) to see what he says.
Keep in mind that this is the same day the ach was set to hit gateway classic cars account and out of my account so i wanted this issue resolved to my satsifaction or i would cancel the deal.
The day went by and it wasn't until the day was over that steve west sent me a text saying the consignor says the car was like that when he bought it 2 years earlier and it must've just fallen off or came off at the car wash or something? Hogwash is what i said!!!
A car that has supposedly been babied and pampered and garage kept usually gets hand washed and hand waxed and doesn't go to car washes.
I told steve west that i didn't buy a mustang shelby gt 500 where some of the striping is missing and i now question if this car was in a wreck and had the rear valance replaced and they just never replaced the striping because you have to buy the whole stripe kit for the whole car and not just part of the kit.
I never heard anymore from steve west until this morning, 07/22/2021 when he sent an email to me now that all my funds have cleared their account and i am out the money and they still have the car and he stated that neither he, gateway classic cars or the consignor were going to do anything and i bought the car as-is and the deal was now final and i have no recourse.
The steve west had someone named anthony freeman send me a few emails from the st louis mo. Offices telling me basically the same thing that the deal is final and i bought it as-is and that i have no recourse!.
I learned later in the day that a shawn beach who is cfo and coo for corporate has an email so i advised him as well what was going on and how i've been treated on this matter. He never responded!
I've also advised all three people involved with this transaction that i was recinding the deal and that i haven't accpted possession nor will i accept possession and i made d deamnd that the full amount of $34,734.07 be wired back to my account and i provided them with my routing and my account number and demanded it be back in my account by the end of today at close of business.
Reasons to recind the deal include: false and misleading advertising in order to deceive into the transaction, deceptive fair trade, fraud and many other deceptive practices as well as serious questions about the carfax showing no accidents because shelby gt striping doesn't just fall off the car???
Additionally, i have now discovered there are (18) other complaints right here on scamionagainst various locations of gateway classic cars as well as complaints and negative reviews all over the internet about this company both from consignors who got cheated to innocent buyers such as myself who believed this was a legitimate company and not a license to steal in the way they conduct their business.
Do yourself a favor and do your research on this organization and check them out by all the negative reviews all over the internet, here on scamion, better business bureaus etc etc.
My advice is hold on to your money and steer clear from this entire organization.
PEOPLE, PAY ATTENTION. Gateway Classic Cars has very questionable business practices. I wanted to list my 1970 SS El Camino with this company in the fall of 2020. I called and asked all the question about the process. They tell you what you want to hear, and then they send you a contract. Like most people, I really wanted to sale my car, and was willing to pay a fair commission to have someone else do it.
In short, paragraph 1 of the contract is all about getting you ready for the game, it is called "NET AMOUNT". This is where you agree to the, and let me quote "Initial net amount for the sale of the vehicle". "This amount is also referred to as Net To Owner". There is some other wording in this paragraph, but here is and I quote the wording you need to understand: "Any amount earned over final written Net To Owner amount will be retained by Consignee as commission."
Now, we can move on to paragraph 2 of the Gateway Classic Car contract. Minimum Consignment Commission. I am going to quote the part you need to read and understand. "The minimum consignment commission retained by the consignee will be $2,500 or 12.5% of the sale price, whichever is greater". "The consignee reserves the right to charge a buyer's Fee up to 12.5% of the sale price, although this does not create any agency relationship between the Consignee and the buyer, and the Consignee is not acting as a broker for the buyer.".
Just to make a few things clear. The buyers premium is included in the asking price of any vehicle price you see posted for a vehicle sold by Gateway Classic Cars.
Now, stop and read the above comments over and over until you are blue in the face and think you have understood paragraph one and two of the Gateway Classic Car contract.
Now I will explain how this worked for me. I arrived for my appointment to deliver my car to the Atlanta show room. My appointment was with Dennis Vanterpool. Dennis went over the contract with me. He pulled Chris Hicks into the process when we were trying to agree to the Net to Owner price. We agreed that if we went with $35,000 as the Net to Owner, the car would be listed for just under $40,000. We knew there would be some potential negotiating before it was over, but we all agreed this price would bring potential buyers.
Two weeks later, I called Dennis to find out why my car was never listed on the company website, or any of the sites they say it will be listed. Dennis was unaware the car was not listed, and said he would call me back. One week passes, and no return call from Dennis, so I call the show room and spoke to Chris Hicks. He told me he was just about ready to call me, yea right..... You see at that point my car was pulled outside for photos, but they could not get it started again. I drove three hours back to Atlanta the next day to find they had run the battery dead trying to start the 454 Blower motor.
After showing Chris how to start a motor like this, we were back on track to get the car listed. A few days later, my car was listed, and much to my shock, it was listed at $46,000. Now do the math, that makes it 32% over the Net To Owner. Now they have me because the Gateway Classic Car contract states they have the right to list the car at any price. I called Dennis, and asked him about the listing price. He told me corporate set the listing price. He then told me that it was only after he did the paperwork on my car that he learned that every car was listed at 32+% of the Net to Owner because they have expenses of running a business.
I told him my contact stated 12.5% commission, but he pointed to the contract that states they can list for any price above the Net to Owner price. Dennis wrote a letter to Gateway Classic Cars owner and copied me on email. Dennis told the owner that what they were doing was confusing and wrong. Dennis was no longer employed after that. After many unanswered phone calls, I found myself talking to Chis Rockwell at Gateway Classic Cars Corporate. His solution to the problem was for me to lower my Net To Owner, so they could lower the asking price. I refused, so he agreed to lower the asking price to $44,000, this would allow them to make just 26% on this sale. Mat car sit on the show room floor in Atlanta until I picked it up at the end of the contract.
I am trying to tell you readers two things. First, if you are going to list a car with Gateway Classic Cars, the commission is not the 12.5% they talk about before you drop off your car. The only way to lower the advertised price, is to reduce your Net to Owner, but the 32% Gateway commission will not be changed. Go back to the quote about paragraph 1 where they talk about "Initial amount" for the Net To Owner. They know the Net To Owner amount is going to change, they count on it.
The second point is for all you buyers. Keep in mind that EVERY advertised price you see from Gateway Classic Cars has a chump bump that could choke a horse!
If you decide to make a purchase here Do Not put any money down until you have the keys to the car you are buying in your hands.
My financing fell through and I was informed that they would not be refunding my deposit, I guess I didn't read the fine print on one of the papers I was signing while we waited on the bank to call back.
In all of my 50 years of buying cars this is by far the worst dealership I have ever dealt with!
My warning for you is if you don't have the money to lose, I'm on disability, and the money I loss was most of my monthly check. Don't Deal With This Dealership!
I am a good honest Christian person. The people at gateway classic cars are cheating people ,as is does not mean you can Lie & steal.
I ask that all good Christian people not buy from Gateway cassics,there are other cassic car places.Please ,please if we all stick together we can stop this kind of fraud.Thanks & God Bless
I paid 22K for my Classic dream truck from Gateway Classic Cars St Louis. They shipped me at my expense a truck that would not start to pull it off the hauler (2 Cells dead in battery). After I paid extra to get it unloaded at a garage they replaced the battery and got it started only to find out the radiator was overflowing with oil.
They put it on the rack and found the cross members, floor pans, and rocker panels were rusted out and rebuilt with silicone than painted black so the undercarriage would look good for the pictures. Brake cylinder including master were all bad. Steering defective. Signal lights broken.
Gateway response after I sent them pictures was sorry we are not responsible AS IS NO WARRANTY. Bottom line I have owned the truck three months and never driven It because it's not safe and I can't afford to have it fixed.
I have been looking at a 1976 corvette from gateway classic cars.
I was told all options worked with exception of the a/c .they told me it blew cool not cold.I also asked about paint told paint was fresh and shined.I asked if there was any leaks again I was told no leaks,I aslo asked about glass told no issues.they also told mr car ran out great!!!!!!
I should have spent the money and flew to see car !!!!!
I would have ran back home without car.However i wired the money in their account . 10 days later i got the car. Itsounding like a tank when they started the enginge it had a flowthu muffler!!! loud sonunds bad.
The paint looked to be at least ten years old with runs dust spots total unprofessional over spray on windows good thing windows were up interior was saved. Went to try a/c hmmmm????? did not blow at all nothing zilch nada?? looking through the drivers window whats this? A scratch 1/4 deep from wipers being operated without a blade....
take the car for a ride felt like drivng on square tires ..slat spotted...
also was huge annoying squeak. Muffler was installed incorectly hmmm? who woulda thunk. LOOK IN PERSON DO NOT TRUST THEM!!!!!!!!
I purchased a 1969 Plymouth roadrunner from the Indiana location of Gateway Classic Cars; they are a consignment house.
I was told on the phone that the car I found on thier website was a restored car in great condition. I must tell you that was not correct; I have driver the car all of 200 miles and have an estimate for $30,000.00 is structural repairs.I understand that I am responsible for buyiny the car but I'm sharing this story only for 1 reason.
do not purchase a vehicle where you have no recourse witht the owner.
Run away from these guys they are bad, bad, bad!!!
Contacted dealership to purchase a 1978 Bronco.
Dealer stated that the truck had undergone a complete restoration and all receipts were avaialble. After multiple conversations and repeated assurances of the condition of the unit, we decided to put an offer in and buy the Bronco. During the negotiating I decided to suspend the purchase, the manager called me and talked the Bronco up, assured me of the condition of the unit and dropped the pricing to get the deal settled.
I was supposed to get a copy of the work done as well as all the receipts. Didn't happen for 4 weeks. But they were sure to ask me multiple times through the deal to send money. " Did you send the money." " If you cold wire the money immediately that would be great." Should have been a red flag!!!!
After receiving the unit, and my first look 1200 miles away, I was completely dissatisfied. Contacted the dealer within 5 mnutes of getting it off the truck. Manger was busy. 3 days later after several calls and emails finally got him to return my call. I wasnted to return the car at my own expense but they wouldn't hear of it. Anyone who's in the car business or even my 9year old son can see this unit it is garbage.
The body was FALLING off yes, FALLING off the frame. The interior was hacked appart and piece mealed. Where there was once elctronics wires hung and went no where. The body mounts have been hacked away to fit the headers that are not the correct spec. THe "SHOW QUALITY" paint job is bubbling. The motor has a miss and was idling too fast. The spark box was removed. The steering has 3" of play in it. The rag joint was completely shot. The heater was completely disconnected and rotted out. The heater core is shot. The rears (front and back) that had been newly rebuilt was a complete lie. The front set of gears were 3:73 and rear was 4:11. No locker as described. The rear springs were so shot the truck 2" lower in the rear. The emergency brake was complete broken off, there is no brake. The frame has been cut off in the front and back. There are several other issues with the truck.
I expressed my position with the dealer and the condition of the truck that a 9 year old could have seen that the truck was NOT what was advertised and confirmed by the dealer. I wanted to send the truck back immediately at my cost or have some money for the repairs refunded to me. They said they get back to me.
I had the truck imediately to a garage when I received it and they gave me a quote of $7,500.00 to fix all the issues with the truck. $5,000 was just to make the truck safe to drive. THe dealer flat out lied to get a sale. They were very attentive when it came to closing the deal and getting their money. As soon as an issue was brought to them it was ignored.
Needless to say, I purchased the truck over a month ago and it's still at the shop getting repaired. The dealer basically left me hanging in the wind after they got their money.
I have been writing this letter to you, over the past few months, in my mind. Now I am going to put it down on paper and send it to you.
First, the subject car you sold me is nothing more then a selection of junk yard parts that were collected from other A body MOPARS and assembled on a 1967 Dart GT frame. The car was misrepresented by you and Mr. Ferguson (title owner). There is so much wrong with this car that I don't know where to start, maybe at the beginning would be the best place.
As I told you in my telephone call, there was no "over-drive unit" in the car, as YOUR dealer description noted. The glove box is also missing. A critical chrome piece that is unique to convertibles, is missing. Oh, aren't pictures just great! They can hide or obscure so many things.
And guess what! When I got the vehicle on a lift, there were the blown rear shock absorbers and the leaf springs so fatigued that they could not hold the vehicle in a correct manner when making turns.
So, new shocks have cost me $100.00. And new springs with all of the mounting gear/hardware has been around $450.00!
Oh, and about those NEW tires, they would be great if they were only the right size. The right sized tires just cost me $450.00. That way the sides would not rub on the inside of the rear fender wells. And talking about fender wells...where are the front fender well braces?
Why are the heater hoses plugged on the engine block? Is there something wrong with the heater core?
Yes, I'll agree the "chrome bumpers look great", especially the rear one because it belongs on a 1969 A Body MOPAR not this 1967. Oh, and did you know that I'll be spending an additional $500-$700 for a correct rear bumper? Of course you did, you know what these old car parts cost. I do need rear back-up lights!
None of the front fenders are correct. And the trunk lid is wrong. What wreck did these builders get them from? There are NO "GT" badges on the front grill, fenders nor on the trunk. As a matter of fact, the Trunk molding is missing. The fact is, that there are NO holes in the body/panels for the "GT" medallions to fit into!
And the brakes, yikes!!!!!!!
I love one of your comments that you made in a message to me; "This one is exceptionally clean and freshly restored including a new crate motor.".
FRESHLY: "Revived or reinvigorated".
RESTORED: "To bring back to an original or normal condition".
Well, none of that was done, except the crate motor!
Today! A new day, I rolled down the passenger window and it fell out of it's track! Well, I was going to change all of the locks anyway, because they don't work. So I'll fix the glass problem when I take off the door panels.
Well, I've grown tired of identifying and explaining all of the problems associated with this "1967 Dodge Dart GT Convertible", so I am going to just list everything wrong, damaged or MISSING;