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report scam| Country | United States |
| State | Arizona |
| City | Phoenix |
| Address | 4340 East Indian School Rd #21-594 |
| Phone | 888-421-3593 |
| Website | http://www.deangraziosi.com/ |
I am so embarrassed....got ripped off AGAIN. When will I ever learn? He was so enthusiastic, too. But there was this little voice inside that warned me but like the mouse in front of the snake, I was taken in and hypnotized.
His material is just a total and complete ripoff of others who have scammed before him. Full of famous quotes recycled. Full of rah-rah-sis-boom-bah and all the while the hands go so deep in your pocket it is obscene.
Why isn't there a law in the US? Why don't all such companies have to go before a review board of some type?? Something! Somebody help us honest types that just cannot IMAGINE someone ripping people off just because WE couldn't sleep at night if WE did such a thing!
DO NOT GIVE THESE PEOPLE A DAMNABLE DIME. How's this little gem from Graziosi...."The Magic Button is inside you....no one is going to do it for you--it's up to you!!"
Well, you don't need Dean either. Keep your money.
And guess what? I just logged on to buy John Beck's scam! When in Hades will I ever learn. Right now! That's what. I'm keeping my money, thank you and advise you to do the same. ;O)
Sabra Winters, California
Dean Grazoisi's "Think a Little Different" The info mercial is Totally Misleading!!!!!! program for buying and selling homes for no out of pocket is not what he claims. He says you do not need good credit, but after recieving his package. We found that you infact need very good credit or someone to invest with you.
We are sending the program back, because if you do not have perfect credit or a rich financial backer, this program will not work.
I recently bought the Think A Little Different program off an infomercial. This was $39.95 but they obviusly tried to sell me some more collaterol. Once I called them they then enrolled me on the following programs:
Special Listing Agency fiees (America's Real Estate Network) for $995 - Guaranteed Traffic.com for $2000 - Internet advertizing for $795 - Domain registration for $24.95 [this is legitimate]
Once I had enrolled and went through their pitch the fees were discounted and I ended up with a bill for $3,870.
After this billing cycle, I was then phoned by PMIcoaching.com to enrol me in one of their real-estate coaching programs. This would apparently would help me guarantee some real-estate transactions which in turn could be used as advertising by Dean Graziosi to further promote his scam [infomercials]. The cost of this plan is $6580. At this point I said, "enough"! 'Click', end of conversation, I put the phone down.
I did recieve some paperwork and a binder for these costs from "think A Little Different". Unfortunately they are next to worthless and must have cost about $25 maximum to produce.
I would like to file a complaint against:
Dean Graziosi's Think A Little Different - This would be under general fraud and for not providing anything of value for the money
GuaranteedTraffic.com - This would be for exorbitant costs for rediricing internet traffic to a website.
Obviously this is a scheme to extort money out of people and I want to expose these people so that others don't make the mistake I've made. This is a lot of money to most people.
One week after receiving the book, I got a phone call from Dean Graziosi's marketing team. After 2 hours of a friendly/forceful sales pitch from a salesman, I got a follow-up call from the "closer" and I agreed to pay $5885 for a mentor. The next day I called to cancel. I didn't feel good about being so quick to make such a decision. I was promised a refund in 7-10 business days. The friendliness turned to pressure and the person was reluctant to let me off the phone. It has been 3 weeks and still no refund. I have taken it up with my bank, and I'm sure the dispute will end fine, but what a pain. But be careful....these people are not in the business of selling only books. They pray on people to fork over huge sums of money for a mentor. Anonymous New York, New York
After watching his most compelling info-mercial I thought maybe this guy is for real so I ordered his book. Don't be fooled this man is selling the same old snake oil. First his people try sell you everything else under the sun with the complete satisfaction guarantee ploy. All you need to do is contact them at anytime to cancel, Well good luck with that. 3 calls and 3.5 hours later I was finally able to get through. His book does't offer any new insight his foreclosure website offers nothing more than what you can get for free in thepaper. That is of course unless you want to pay extra as usual. Dissatisfied does'nt even begin to describe how I feel about all the time I wasted in reading the book and then having to cancel the web site to avoid the re-curring charges Cliff hARDWICK, New Jersey
I bought the Motor Millions package from Dean Enterprises and Dean Graziosi's Motor Millions in December of 2002. The written guarantee was that if you did not make money in 365 days he would refund the money. I followed his refund policy to the letter and after 366 days passed and I did not make any money. I returned all of the material and refund papers according to the written agreement. His then customer service rep, Jay Nettles comfirmed that I had followed the terms correctly and was due a refund. Several months and very many phone calls later I began to recieve small amounts of the refund. I would get check for $50 or $100. Then nothing until I began calling again. Finally after having recieved about one third of the money they took, over two years, my phone calles were ignored. Soon all I got was a message that the voice mail box was full or that the number had been disconnected. I filed a complaint with the BBB but was told that it was not responded to. I've also read very many negative reports about Dean Grazoisi's Motor Milloins, but just learned about the Rip Off Report recently. I had given up and wrote the money off to being scamed for about a thousand dollars until I read a Rip Off report on Dean Grazoisi's newest scam, something to do with real estate. I have not bought into this recent scam of his since I am convinced he and all those who work for him are bad, very bad pepole. But, I did notice that the customes service phone number, 800-489-7003, is the same as the one I was calling for nearly three years. I called the number to make sure it was Dean Enterprises and sure enought it is. One of the refund checks had a return address of Dean Enterprises, I still have that envelope. I left a massage but, to date, have had no response, not that I expect to at this point. I would not trust anything that Dean Grazoisi has anything to do with. I very much recomend not to get involved with him or anything that has his name on it. Darrel Auburn, Kansas
Dean Grazoisi's "Think a Little Different" The info mercial is Totally Misleading!!!!!! AZ Phoenix They advertise. 30-day money-back guarantee is Ironclad. If you're not a 100%happy, we will return 100% of the purchase price with NO Questions Asked. That is not true! I am trying to get my money back since September 2005 I call 1-800-427-6026 only to be able to leave a message none ever answers. I also called 602-265-554- the same none will pick up everything is automated. Don Lapre sold this company back in February 2006, so I was told when I called 1-800-427-6026. He never credit my money back as promised on the 30-day money back guarantee. Look at People beware he sells other rip of items besides Think a Little different from Dean Graziosi is not the only one . Don't be fouled what you read on Also go to click on Dean Graziosi and Don Lapre all of it is a scam BIG RIP OFF Coaching if for rip of YOUR MONEY Angie Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dean Graziosi's "Think A Little Different" company is yet another scam intended to draw customers in to pay for videos and other "educational materials" when most of the information is hype that you can get at the library for free. We have been trying to get a $150 refund due us from the materials we returned to them since October, 2005 without success, despite repeated calls. Save yourself some time: Do not get sucked in by this company, or any other "get rich" scheme you see on Cable TV. Know that any such offers are designed to make the "seller" rich by collecting thousands of dollars from people who have a dream of bettering themselves and, in a moment of weakness, follow that dream into another ripoff. JR St. Louis, Missouri
Unfortunately, I got scammed by this real estate venture. I was promised to make great money, web site to market... The whole cake. At a cost of $2,000.00 dollars and would have a GREAT support group behind me. Well, After months of turmoil even getting the start package was difficult. Then, months later, the web site that did not even have accessibility. Then, Andrew, the NEW CS Manager gave me a few perks (not any discounts) on another scam offered by one of Dean's affiliates. To date, there has been no money making, just the spending of money from my pocket. Now I have very little cash to spend since I am still paying off my credit card debt for no services rendered. Very much a GRAND disappointment. Stephen Cleveland, Ohio
Dean graziosi automated foreclosure finder ship for review - cancel and get your money back
Nationwide ordered a 'trial" of the automated foreclosure finder" from deangraziosi for $197.00 after i got it - saw it was standrard marketing stuff - but they had a "software" program that would located pre-foreclosures! after getting it all set-up - it returned the local list of "craigslist".Org! no foreclosures - jno other information. They then called to have me "buy" a mentoring program so i coudl use the information is a more positive manner - i refused and requested cancellation. I called their 800# - but it is usually closed. I finally got online again on their website After having to re-register) and sent an email - no reposnse i called again and the call center answerer said she could only sell - not authorize returns - she transferred me and after 5 or more minutes the line went dead. Tried their "online" support - but it had no operators available - but there was another e-mail address - sent a cancellation request to them - no response. I will have mny credit card cancel the charges - but this guy is nothing but a markting rip-off artist! re interest cleveland, south carolina
When I called the number, it was computer automated customer service. Ever try to talk to a computer? Finally, I pressed the right number and ordered the book. The computer then tried to see me at least a dozen or more UPSELLS (more books) and I was forever on the phone pressing, "no thank you" number. Finally, when it wouldn't stop, I hung up. I wanted to cancel but it wouldn't let me. Book arrived and it was $9.99 for shipping and handling, (obviously not a book rate). I browsed through the book and it just gave little bits of information and you had to buy their other books for it to make sense. SCAM!!!! I called the company that had ear piercing background music and was on the line for over 20 mintues waiting my turn. When a man answered that was not real friendly but he did give me an Return Authorization but failed to mention where to send the book, NO ADDRESSES OR RETURN ADDRESSES EVEN ON THE BOX!!!! He obviously knew that. Silly me for assuming that an address would be somewhere. I asked him if I get the $9.99 shipping costs back and he said, "No, we don't do that!" It couldn't have cost $9.99 to ship so no matter what happens, this company still makes money and doesn't have that 100% money back gaurantee!!! THEY STILL MAKE MONEY!!!! They put you through long wait lines on the telephone and make you listen to the loudest and most ear piercing music where most people would have hung up after 20 minutes. I tried to put it on speaker but my husband complained of the noise. I could hear it from my cell phone without the speaker on and it sounded like the speaker was on. This company has many, many ploys that they use to discourage you from getting your money back. Buyer beware. This is a scam and the biggest upselling practice I've ever come across. If they charge me a dime more than I paid for by sending me other crap, I will sue them and I will turn them into the Attorney General's office as soon as I find out their address. Please help me Rip-Off-Reports, because their service won't! Annelle Rigby, Idaho
Dean Graziosi Scottsdale Arizona
Two months ago the name Dean Graziosi was as familiar to me as the instructions on this website. I have seen enough of Dean Graziosi on infomercials, and read part of his book to determine the nature of this individual. He is a real estate guru, smart, savvy, and very talented and knowedgable about what he does. Everything I have read about him in his book so far is truthful, and he seems to be offering a good product over the air in theory.
However, if you get bitten by a snake during a camping trip and you call 911, and they tell you that you can save yourself fast and easy by putting a knife between the two fang holes and cutting a quarter of an inch between both holes, and suck the venom out, and pour some vodka in between to kill the remaining venom and bacteria, wouldn't it be easier for you to find out where the nearest hospital is with the anti-venom?
In this scenerio, Dean Graziosi is the high level EMS worker running the call center, and his suppordinates are the 911 operators. You are the person just bitten by a harmless garder snake trying to find the fastest way possible to cure the bite that deep down you know is harmless, and just want to see how the EMS unit saves patients.
Dean Graziosi Is solid at the roots, and core. He knows his business inside out. However you don't. And for every dollar you invest in his merchandise he will earn at least $1,000 and then some. I watched his infomercials during the dreck that cablevision offers me through its basic service. What I am sure Dean does is take two ordinary people and offer them the world if they appear on his infomerical, to make it look legitimate. Then he takes five other people that are obviously staged actors, because their preppy makeup looks like his and put them on tv to show you that with just a little motivation you can earn ten times what his two ordinary people earn through the real estate fortune. Everyone of these people in the infomercial did profit big time from Dean's program. He wanted them to. He set it up that way. They were the lucky puppies and kittens that were adopted by that loving family at the pet store, everyone else is either part of his puppy mill, or has to hope that a very kind family adopts them from a shelter.
The real estate market, is not a sure thing so you have to constantly keep your eyes and ears in motion to keep your business growing, or you will fall flat on your face. Dean and his group earns money, unconditionally, which he uses to put on more infomercials on the crappy stations cablevison offers me for its $50 per month package to bring in more business. So basically you have someone with legitamate well cultivated organic seeds, planting them in the perfect beautiful garden, that grow solid roots, with a solid trunk, and solid buds. So then that same person just adds some spring water and adequate levels of sunshine (his phony infomercials, and telemarketers) to continue growing the longest branches, and best, most colorful leaves imaginable, so people could say that Dean Graziosi has shown us "the life" uh the light. Why can't you?
Dean Graziosi - Real Estate Millionaires Dean Graziosi Internet
After I ordered Mr. Graziosi's program, I attempted to find a street address and telephone number to inquire more. None were available anywhere online. Neither could I locate a telephone number other than a recorded one, with a machine answering and telephoning back. Since this machine did not recognize my address, they were unable to send the product to my home. Because I do not want the product from a company this shabbily run -- meaning they have no physical location and no physical phone where a live human being answers, I no longer want their service. CAveat! They have my money and I don't have their product. Once or twice or thrice a day my cell phone receives a telephone call from these ******es (tape recorded *****es) requesting my actual address so they can mail this product to me. Why would I now want to give them my address when I now know they are a sham and do not intend to give me any customer service whatsoever. If a live human being cannot call me back inquiring about my address, why would I now believe a live human being will give me advice on the telephone to benefit my life so that I can earn millions!!!! Fat chance! A tape recording has rarely changed my life! Hardly one that promised a live person supporting me through the process. Ripped in California Ripped West Hills, California
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My name is dean graziosi and i appreciate you and the time you took to read this review. I know how fast things move in today's world, so i am appreciative of you taking the time to do little research on me. I am a very firm believer about doing your due diligence before jumping into anything. As you see i will always try to go above and beyond with anything i do so please reach out to me on social media or my office if you ever need anything and we are more than happy to help. "
At dean graziosi we pride ourselves in using the highest quality products.
Dean graziosi prides himself on the products and services he provides. There's a lot of moving parts to focus on in any business but we feel the customer experience is first and foremost. When the customer knows how important they are then they can be ready to learn from our bestselling books like millionaire success habits, or going through one of our advance video training courses... We strive to be known as the company that spends the proper energy assisting and providing value even "after the yes." it's not uncommon for dean to hear "wow, i feel like i have known you forever" because of the personal feel and touches dean gives around his community and inside and out of all of his products and services.
I purchased a book from this company. Then for the next several months they made unauthorized drafts from my checking account. I have not received anything for these charges they made and they have made it very difficult to contact them and get it stopped.
In my opinion the book wasn't even worth what they sell it for. Mostly just inspirational stories and very little useful information. Then they tapped into my checking account and took money every month until I noticed and I am now trying to get them to stop, they are making it quite difficult.
I'm sure there must be countless others around the country that are also having unauthorized charges made to their accounts.
I would not recommend this company to my worst enemy.
I called and ordered deans program and talk about stupid, the sales rep tried to sell me the world and after every product she tried to sell me i asked her questions about these products and she had no idea.So besides the script she was reading in front of her she didnt know what the hell she was talking about and finally she told me "she's only a sales rep for those type of questions i'd have to contact customer service". To make a long story short i paid for rush delivery which didnt even arrive in the time gauranteed. I started going through deans info on how to purchase homes with no $ down and no credit, garbage!! the first 2 cd's you listen to are all motivational cd's and explain nothing. I got through deans course in 3 days and not one thing tells you how become a real estate milloinaire. Everything is all about deans own succes stories It's not hard to buy a house that cost $460 k when you have that much in your acct) and him trying to make you believe that his program works. The info he tells you is stuff an ape already knows so i called back and complained Here's where i laugh ). When i called (3 times) no one was ever in and they said A switch board operator) i'll have some one call you back so i finally gave them my info to get back to me. Someone from utah calls me asking all these b.S questions like, on a scale of 1-10 how bad do you wanna make money, and do you have the drive to succeed. After i answer yes to all their dumb questions they tell me i qualify for an advanced training mentor program and they start aking me how much available credit i have on my credit cards. So i play along and i tell them $5000 and they tell me this program will cost about $4000 and if i pay that amount it shows dedication and that im serious about making $. I say i dont want to max out my cards and they tell me its alright because im spending "other peoples money" Opm as they call it) so i reply hows that,i have to pay it back. They tell me "by that time ill have so much $ it wont matter". I say no and he gets frustrated and then we hang up. I did get my $ back but the reason for me writing this is because these poeple need to be exposed for the crooks they are and so that consumers wont waste their time and $. David sacramento, california
I got his program and none of the advice that i have gotten from them hasnt worked.in fact the lenders tell me that some of the advise cant be used leagaly. so watch out for this scam. Squirrel appleton, Wisconsin
Please stop telephoning me in the classroom. I keep the cell phone number I gave for emergencies. I have not received your book yet . . . and wonder at the telephonic harassment from a recorded message whether I want your company to have my telephone number again. When I get home today, I shall be filing a complaint with the Attorney General's office, State of Arizona, in order to stop your illicit activities. You had better not use my credit card number again for any reason. Otherwise, I shall have the credit card company go after you for fraud and frauduluent billing of my account. Ripped West Hills, California
After I ordered Mr. Graziosi's program, I attempted to find a street address and telephone number to inquire more. None were available anywhere online. Neither could I locate a telephone number other than a recorded one, with a machine answering and telephoning back. Since this machine did not recognize my address, they were unable to send the product to my home. Because I do not want the product from a company this shabbily run -- meaning they have no physical location and no physical phone where a live human being answers, I no longer want their service. CAveat! They have my money and I don't have their product. Once or twice or thrice a day my cell phone receives a telephone call from these ******es (tape recorded *****es) requesting my actual address so they can mail this product to me. Why would I now want to give them my address when I now know they are a sham and do not intend to give me any customer service whatsoever. If a live human being cannot call me back inquiring about my address, why would I now believe a live human being will give me advice on the telephone to benefit my life so that I can earn millions!!!! Fat chance! A tape recording has rarely changed my life! Hardly one that promised a live person supporting me through the process. Ripped in California Ripped West Hills, California
Nationwide Ordered a 'trial" of the Automated Foreclosure finder" from DeanGraziosi for $197.00 After I got it - saw it was standrard marketing stuff - but they had a "software" program that would located Pre-foreclosures! After getting it all set-up - it returned the local list of "Craigslist".org! No foreclosures - jno other information. They then called to have me "buy" a mentoring program so I coudl use the information is a more positive manner - I refused and requested cancellation. I called their 800# - but it is usually closed. I finally got online again on their website (after having to re-register) and sent an email - no reposnse I called again and the call center answerer said she could only sell - not authorize returns - she transferred me and after 5 or more minutes the line went dead. Tried their "Online" support - but it had no operators available - but there was another E-mail address - sent a cancellation request to them - no response. I will have mny credit card cancel the charges - but this guy is nothing but a markting rip-off artist! Re interest cleveland, South Carolina
When I called the number, it was computer automated customer service. Ever try to talk to a computer? Finally, I pressed the right number and ordered the book. The computer then tried to see me at least a dozen or more UPSELLS (more books) and I was forever on the phone pressing, "no thank you" number. Finally, when it wouldn't stop, I hung up. I wanted to cancel but it wouldn't let me. Book arrived and it was $9.99 for shipping and handling, (obviously not a book rate). I browsed through the book and it just gave little bits of information and you had to buy their other books for it to make sense. SCAM!!!! I called the company that had ear piercing background music and was on the line for over 20 mintues waiting my turn. When a man answered that was not real friendly but he did give me an Return Authorization but failed to mention where to send the book, NO ADDRESSES OR RETURN ADDRESSES EVEN ON THE BOX!!!! He obviously knew that. Silly me for assuming that an address would be somewhere. I asked him if I get the $9.99 shipping costs back and he said, "No, we don't do that!" It couldn't have cost $9.99 to ship so no matter what happens, this company still makes money and doesn't have that 100% money back gaurantee!!! THEY STILL MAKE MONEY!!!! They put you through long wait lines on the telephone and make you listen to the loudest and most ear piercing music where most people would have hung up after 20 minutes. I tried to put it on speaker but my husband complained of the noise. I could hear it from my cell phone without the speaker on and it sounded like the speaker was on. This company has many, many ploys that they use to discourage you from getting your money back. Buyer beware. This is a scam and the biggest upselling practice I've ever come across. If they charge me a dime more than I paid for by sending me other crap, I will sue them and I will turn them into the Attorney General's office as soon as I find out their address. Please help me Rip-Off-Reports, because their service won't! Annelle Rigby, Idaho
Two months ago the name Dean Graziosi was as familiar to me as the instructions on this website. I have seen enough of Dean Graziosi on infomercials, and read part of his book to determine the nature of this individual. He is a real estate guru, smart, savvy, and very talented and knowedgable about what he does. Everything I have read about him in his book so far is truthful, and he seems to be offering a good product over the air in theory.
However, if you get bitten by a snake during a camping trip and you call 911, and they tell you that you can save yourself fast and easy by putting a knife between the two fang holes and cutting a quarter of an inch between both holes, and suck the venom out, and pour some vodka in between to kill the remaining venom and bacteria, wouldn't it be easier for you to find out where the nearest hospital is with the anti-venom?
In this scenerio, Dean Graziosi is the high level EMS worker running the call center, and his suppordinates are the 911 operators. You are the person just bitten by a harmless garder snake trying to find the fastest way possible to cure the bite that deep down you know is harmless, and just want to see how the EMS unit saves patients.
Dean Graziosi Is solid at the roots, and core. He knows his business inside out. However you don't. And for every dollar you invest in his merchandise he will earn at least $1,000 and then some. I watched his infomercials during the dreck that cablevision offers me through its basic service. What I am sure Dean does is take two ordinary people and offer them the world if they appear on his infomerical, to make it look legitimate. Then he takes five other people that are obviously staged actors, because their preppy makeup looks like his and put them on tv to show you that with just a little motivation you can earn ten times what his two ordinary people earn through the real estate fortune. Everyone of these people in the infomercial did profit big time from Dean's program. He wanted them to. He set it up that way. They were the lucky puppies and kittens that were adopted by that loving family at the pet store, everyone else is either part of his puppy mill, or has to hope that a very kind family adopts them from a shelter.
The real estate market, is not a sure thing so you have to constantly keep your eyes and ears in motion to keep your business growing, or you will fall flat on your face. Dean and his group earns money, unconditionally, which he uses to put on more infomercials on the crappy stations cablevison offers me for its $50 per month package to bring in more business. So basically you have someone with legitamate well cultivated organic seeds, planting them in the perfect beautiful garden, that grow solid roots, with a solid trunk, and solid buds. So then that same person just adds some spring water and adequate levels of sunshine (his phony infomercials, and telemarketers) to continue growing the longest branches, and best, most colorful leaves imaginable, so people could say that Dean Graziosi has shown us "the life" uh the light. Why can't you?
Well, we ordered the think a little different to a real estate fortune package on tv from dean graziosi for 35.95. when we checked our credit card bill we were charged almost 60.00 dollars for this thing. i guess they have pretty high shipping rates there in missouri.(i dont think so). anyway, we decided to continue forward and call to set up a website as directed in the package. all we wanted was to set the site up, and they began to ask alot of questions about what we wanted to do, goals, and financial situation, what we owed on our mortgage, how many credit cards we had, how much we owed, ect. then after we gave this guy, i guess what he needed to hear, he then transferred us to another aka scam artist. this guy proceeded to ask almost the same questions but he went a little furthur in detail. he gave us a great story how they would help us get started and how they would get us 5 realestate deals very quickly, and that we would show profit from this. but that the deals wouldnt have any connection with us at first. hello. red flag. well the more he talked, the larger the flag got. anyway it all ended up with the fact theat we had to invest about 3000.00 0r more to get there help. (so called training). we then explained to this guy that in the cd in the program, dean stated that you didnt need money to make money. and he told us that dean never said this. hello again. we have the cd to prove it. and if this guy doesnt know what dean his boss says in his program, how can he represent him! well from that point, we just told this scammer, that we were doing this on our own, and hung up. i doubt we will ever see our money back from the 35.99 or 39.99, which ever it was. lol. im glad i researched on this website for scamms, before i had a change of heart and lost even more money. Donald CULLMAN, Alabama
Everything i read in ripoff is true and more. I called for training and was given another guru's program to work, the john alexander riches in 14 days. I couldn't believe my ears, then they sent me john alexanders complete course. I always wondered if john alexander new his competition was giving away his course. Sounds like a law suit to me. I had called about getting a refund and was ready to get my money back and they called me and gave me a song and dance that was so good about how they were going to help. Which i believed, to my finincial regret. He talks a good story on tv about forclosures, but in his book maybe 20 pages was all he talked about it,but no real training. The book on cd which i ordered stoped on chapter 15. Did not include the last 5 chapters. I called and complained, but never did get the last 5 chapters on cd. His book is mostly motovational not any real life training on buying forclosures he talked about on tv. Stay away from this creep all he wants is your money. Rick denver, colorado
Consumer's Beware of Think A Little Different fraud. We recently ordered Don Grazio's "Think A Little Different" program after watching the infommercial. I have to admit it sounded like it would have valuable information I could and at about $40 it was worth a try. After receiving the packet and reviewing the CD's and booklets both my husband and I realized that the packet included very little information we could actually use. It was mostly all hipe and motivational and very general. It didn't walk you through the process or give you any real how to do information (although I haven't read all of it ). We didn't want to waste any more of our time. A few weeks later we got a call from our "consultant" Chris, who was going to "help" us get started. He set up a conference call between my husband and I and it was a different person this time. We were asked a bunch of personal questions to see what our "motivation" was and see it we were "good candidates" for their "success team". It didn't take long before we realized that we were being conned, especially after he told us their was a "tuition" for them helping us! He wouldn't tell us the exact amount of the tuition but when we guessed about $2,000 he said that was the "base price". We were told that he would "mentor" us by phone for six months then after our third deal (sale of a home) Don would reiumburse our money. We asked for references and he hestitated and said they didn't do that. Hmmmm I wonder why. He also then said that he would ask about it and someone would get back to us. Then he "wondered if we were good candidates" afterall. We also asked if there was a guarantee. Of course he promised yes, but when we emphazed "in writing" he mumbled a different answer which just avoided the question. "Chris" had initially told me prior to setting up this phone conference that they would help us in exchange for being in one of their commercials. Being in advertising ourselves we felt that would be a fair exchange. Nothing was ever mentioned about a tuition! A red flag went up when the conference guy (can't remember his name) said that he was thousands of success teams like over 70,000 throughout the United States and Canada. Then we wondered why he would want us as a success story after claiming they needed more for their infommercials. There were a lot of contradictions in his stories and I guess he wasn't prepared for the questions we asked. Anyway, we may be out $40 but at least we knew not to go further and want to warn everyone else. Be Very Careful with these guys!!! I don't know what the full "tuition" was but there were a ton of red flags when we asked questions apparently others don't usually ask. I don't suspect they'll be in business long if they keep this up. I also read that Dean Graziois is also the one behind "Motor Millions" a car profitting scam! Delena Delena Gig Harbor, Washington
Hi, i ordered the dean graziosi think a little program a little while ago. i thought it would make me some money and retire early and whatever he claimed on hie commercial.. at first i was watching his infomercials and it looks too good to be true.. it is!! so i was thinking... 50 bucks.. i cant go wrong with that.. once i bought it, salespeople from the company keep on calling me, about signing up for their internet website for 2,000.. i, stupidly bought it thinking that i can make money out of it.. as soon as the package came, theres very little information and deans company never called me.. i tried to call them and they were busy all the time.. its totally worthless!! a word of the wise to other people reading this.. this is a scam!! this program is not about selling and buying homes.. its just a scam to have you pay thousands for nothing. in his audios and his dvd that came with it, he talks about how he grew up being poor, how he succeed, and with his girlie freakin voice and him saying you can make it, it just makes you buy his thousand dollar crap. oh and yea i tihnk in his infomercial or his audios, i forgot, he mentioned that even if he gave his program to everyone in california there will still be property to sell?? thats bs. i was thinking hardly on what he said after i paid 2,000 and going through his audios.. IF everyone in california got his program and it actually works.. everyone there will be a millionarie.. houses are going to turn to billions and billions of dollars because everyone is millionaries and need to buy houses the smart way like he said.. anyways i hope people who is reading this to not get ripped off like me.. I would love to thank dean himself for scamming me because it woke me up on life.. at that time when i ordered the program, im not going to school and have a part time job that sucks. i just graduated from high school at that time. now, i'm going to college and getting a education and doing more productive things on life. i mean.. its just common sense.. in the infomercial he hires normal people that looks like they are dumb, but makes thousands and thousands by opening this website.. and deans saying he never went to college.. that makes the losers in this world look at it and be like.. hey i didnt go to college and i can be rich.. i better buy the program! hes doing a good job of sniffing out the losers in life.. the winners in life will not be up 3 am at night having nothing to do but watching this infomercial.. they would plan whats next in life and work to make a honest living.. oh yea one last thing.. if this program makes you millions as claimed, and says they are going to coach you or something, by deans coaches that works for him.. c'mon!!! why would those "coaches work for dean to get like.. 15 bucks an hor or something to try to coach you and make you millions in a few months? they have the knowledge to teach you, why dont they just quit working for dean and be millionareis themself and retire? y work for dean 8 hours a day since the program teaches you to not work from a 9-5 day and retire early!! thats a red flag!!!!!! anonymous somewhere, Texas
Hi, all, I too was "gullible" enough to fall for this "ideal business opportunity" hoping that it really was going to help me change my life for the better! I first sent for Dean Graziosi's Think a Little Different opportunity for 39.95 which really wasn't that big deal, if it didn't work (I thought), however, after a short time I was contacted by two very "nice" and "professional" sounding people, who presented me with "more" of the opportunity, so after being "promised" 1,000 leads to my professionally created website,to get me started, my own domain site, and a thin little notebook, and a cd with "marketing" tools, I actually forked over $750 and 24.95 (domain name, fee) for Access to the "Real Estate Network" AND "My very own ONLINE PROPERTY Advertising Business"! WOW, I thought I really had arrived! Until, I actually tried to get the Website up and running so I could actually receive the "LEADS". After several calls to "Tech" and my wonderful contacts, I STILL have a non working website, a domain address that's dormant, and a credit bill I am still trying to pay off! I am a single working sixty year old woman, who actually thought it would be feasible to "quit my job" and make a very good income doing this program! I work VERY hard for my money and do not have EXTRA to waste on these types of programs, but honestly it sounded so good, that I really believed it to be possible! IT'S A RIP OFF! And Robyn and Greggory, you really should go into another line of work, before you find yourselves behind bars with your employer! I WILL be contacting the Attorney General and anybody else that will be able to get my hard earned money back, so continue to NOT ANSWER my phones calls, it's ok! Penny Lake in the Hills, Illinois
I paid $153.80 ($133.90+$19.90S&H) for their "VIP program", including 2 books and CD's. Was promised that if I didn't like it "for any reason" I could return it in "any condition" for a full refund, less S&H, as long as I returned it within the first 30 days. Examined it for 1 day and found it to be useless. Called them and got a (somewhat reluctant) Return Authorization number. Mailed it back to Elk Grove Village within 3 days of receipt and got UPS confirmation that it had been delivered a few days later. ("signed for by Steinke, location: dock") Waited 10 days and it still wasn't credited to my credit card. Emailed asking why. They confirmed that it was received and that my cc would be credited "before my next statement". Got Statement and it wasn't credited. Tried to call, got automated system with robot that couldn't tell me anything. Interesting that they have a whole menu item in their answering service for refunds. THey must get a lot of returns."Call back during business hours after 8:30" kind of thing... Watch out for these guys. Brett Phoenix, Arizona
Tuition... Yes be ready to spend $3000 to $6000 for tuition when you get involved with Deans program. When you tell them that you don't want to put it on your credit card, they hang up on you. Oh yes, speak with their guru's Chris Roberson or David Roberson. They will give you a call and try to get you to spend tons of money. I had expectations that this was a viable form of investment for your future, It turns out to be for Dean Graziosi's future and not yours. Do you think he made his money selling realestate.... It was on his customers and not realestate. Watch yourself when dealing with this organization. Jim Dunellen, New Jersey
CROCK AND CROOK!!! We were with Motor Millions for one year and made nothing. We put all our efforts into it and nada! We even bought the EBAY marketing package after a 2 hour conversation with a "team-member who cares". On our own and with the lead package that we bought as well. CROCK and CROOK. We called as specified on the 11th month and did all the things they required to be qualified for the one year full money back guarantee and we have still not gotten any answers and have not seen our money back. We keep being told that there is NO MONEY coming into the business and they are backlogged on refunds. I fear we will never see our money... I cant even get a call back. I keep leaving message and no avail. I even called Arizona and asked to speak with Dean and I was told that it is his office I called but he is never there and does not speak to customers. The receptionist has never even met him. It has been since December of 2004 I have been trying to get our money back. It is not August 2005 and NOTHING. Mary in customer service provides no help and keeps referring to a "list" that she gets from accounting every month with the people who are lucky enough to be getting a refund. I have spoken to her twice and have left tons of messages. She just keeps telling me that I am going to get my money and that I should call the following month if I dont hear back from her. I am to the point where I am ready to take legal action. How does DEAN sleep at night? Stephanie Fort Calhoun, Nebraska
After making several attempts to contact them I still have not recieved all the materials I was promised. They made false statements about their advertising and gaurantee and will not return phone calls or respond to email. Ben Lima, Ohio
I ordered the Motor Millions program, due to a television Info Mercial sales pitch. It sounded reasonable. Then after the thin reading "business package" materials arrived, I was hounded by back end calls from their sales reps to order a web site they touted would make me Thousands monthly, by having thousands of people listng their cars on "my" web site, and having their "thousands" of buyers nationwide purchasing those listed from my site. Well.. I wound up spending well over $1,500.00 for the site, some meager web traffic, and in over a year never had even one vehicle listed on this replicator web site. I even marketed the site to car dealers and individuals, none of whom had the slightest interest in listing any of their vehicles for sale on this scam web site. It' turned into a joke. I called Graziosis company several times requesting a refund, even a PARTIAL refund.. and they just ignored me. I have never gotten a call back. The last call I got some girl indicated that "we don't give refunds". So... I feel I've been ripped off for a minimum of $1,500.00 Personally I think its a well done, well advertised SCAM. My experience is that once they sell you all their expensive back end "ad ons".. they take their money and run. They don't appear to have even the slightest interest in someone or their success once they fleece them of a thousand bucks or more. Beckie Valparaiso, Indiana
I ordered the How to Be a Millionaire in Real Estate after watching the infomercial with Dean Graziosi. The company name is ITV and you call 1-800-218-1780 to pay $24.95 plus s&h for a total of $34.90. As a former real estate assistant and apartment manager, I expected information new to me. Something I could actually use in my current low-income situation. I had planned to purchase a rental property and flip it, then do the same with a better property and keep it for income. There was nothing in the book that was relevant to me or that I did not already know. Calling the company was difficult. No matter what time of the day you call, you are told that their offices are busy and to call back at 8:30 AM on the following day. I finally got through by pressing the button to conact the sales department. I told them that I needed a "Return Authorization" number to return the book. The man did not sound happy, and put me on hold, he did come back with a number and told me to send it with a tracking number. I sent the book back as told (within 10 days - a requirement). They received the book and signed for it on Oct 10th, but I still have not received a refund. NOW for the best part - the $34.90 was originally billed to my credit card from "Natural Cures," another one of his products. Then another charge mysteriously appears on my card for $29.95 from "ITV Real Estate." HOW MANY TIMES must you pay for the same book? My banker informed me that if is the other company's policy (even if they have not informed you of said policy) that once you consent to a billing, they can continue to bill/send as they wish. I was told to contact the company and tell them to discontinue/unsubscribe. This is easier said than done as they have now automated their phone service so that you don't get to talk to anyone. My best wishes to any and all who are victims of these people. I hope your experience is much better than mine. There are sites on the web that say people have actually made money using his books. All I can say is that their customer service is the worst that I have ever experienced and I certainly did NOT authorize repeated charges to my credit card. Marce University Place, Washington
Dean's infomercial is VERY misleading. He talks about HIS "network" for being able to post cars and match them with a buyer, which is the #1 thing people will be attracted to. "Just find them, list them, and we'll send you a check!" He makes you believe that he has his own network of used cars on the internet that he is promoting all over the country to dealers and such. A network that might consist of dealers looking for cars for their inventory. A secret sort of network that only dealers like him know about. Come to find that his "network" is actually eBay! Every car you post on his website get's posted on eBay, not some secret network he owns. Dean's "network" and website have no traffic from car buyers, only people that bought his package! Posting car ads on eBay is something you can do all by yourself! So why would you want to pay him a percentage on top of the ebay listing fees when he is doing absolutely nothing to help you find buyers? Incredible! As with so many other infomercial scams, they are quick to try to upgrade you to your own site for a couple hundred dollars more. A site with "guaranteed traffic" and they then sell you a copy of his scam site for you to try to drive other people to. Making you just as guilty at scamming as he is, IF you can ever get someone to list a car through you. Good luck creating the tons of traffic needed to get one person to feel compelled to pay your listing fees and list their car on your unknown website! Especially since any people that actually see your website will be internet users that already know about eBay! Maybe if you can make an infomercial and sell the scam to other people and let THEM create listings on your disguised network like Dean does! Just another pyramid scheme in action. Some of these guys need to stop being so lazy and actually help the people that buy their systems, instead of setting them up for failure. But I guess then everyone would be millionaires like they are and there would be no market for their next scams or anyone to watch their infomercials. Come on Dean! Make a network of your OWN and actually invest into promoting it and HELPING your students, instead of having some cheap script created to post their cars on eBay and stealing from their profits! Millionaires like you and Mr. Don Lapre should be able to afford to run some commercials for your "car network" and "vitamins", but I have yet to ever see any. Only infomercials selling a plan! Advertise and put your customers' affiliate websites into rotation, so they can make some sales. For some strange reason I have yet to ever see a commercial advertising your car network to people or a commercial for Don Lapre's Greatest Vitamins in the World! You know why?? Because you guys couldn't care less if your "car network" or "vitamins" actually sell! You only want to make money off the plan/scheme itself and leave people wondering why it's not working for them! It's sad really. Most people just don't get it. If you actually ever have a product or service worth selling, you would use your money to promote that product or service! Good products and services practically sell themselves. You would NOT invest in a late-night infomercial to hire a bunch of poor people to sell your product or service for you and charge them $35-$80! If you had a website worth promoting, you would pay to promote it! You want the most traffic possible! You would NOT invest in a late-night infomercial to hire a bunch of poor people, with no experience necessary, to promote your website for you. And you surely would NOT sell them a duplicate of your money-making site for an extra $100! These are signs of scams! If their product is worth selling, their affiliates/resellers would be able to sign up for FREE. They wouldn't even need to promote their affiliate programs because a good selling product would have people flocking to become resellers! A word of advice to anyone who reads this. If you have something that actually makes you a millionaire, keep it to yourself, use it and make your fortunes! When it stops working for you, take a couple hundred bucks and throw together an information kit about your "plan". Hey, if you're really creative, you can even start throwing together "plans" without actually ever using them for yourself! Hire an actor to get all hyped up and throw his hands around while he talks. That part is VERY important! It keeps viewers from looking into his eyes and seeing his soul. Then, simply run a few infomercials and scam MILLIONS of people out of their hard-earned money! I guarantee, you'll be a millionaire in no-time! Also, remember to use these phrases: It's that simple! So what are you waiting for?! You have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain! Guaranteed! Call NOW! Ron Portage, Michigan
Dean Grazoisi's "Think a Little Different" The info mercial is Totally Misleading! AZ Phoenix They advertise. 30-day money-back guarantee is Ironclad. If you're not a 100%happy, we will return 100% of the purchase price with NO Questions Asked. That is not true! I am trying to get my money back since September 2005 I call 1-800-427-6026 only to be able to leave a message none ever answers. I also called 602-265-554- the same none will pick up everything is automated. I found out by calling 1-800-973-3714 they bought out the company in Phoenix (2/2006) who sold Dean Grazoisi's "Think a Little Different" stuff. Adam a salesperson told me to keep calling 1-800-427-6026. He also told me a Don Lapre is the owner of the company in Phoenix. They are selling other stuff now. Adam explained all they are doing is to sell Dean Grazoisa's stuff. That's all! What every one needs to do is keep posting reports and update them very frequently. Believe me, fraudulent companies that blatantly rip people off are aware of this website, and by them not coming forward for whatever reason, only shows the world what cowards they are. Angie Colorado Springs, Colorado
What is Motor millions? An actual company with real buildings, or a Don Lapre "company" clone? They sent me the goddamn package for 40 bucks, then they use a stick and carrot approach to getting a lot more money out of your pocket over a period of time. What do I get in return? Nothing! Pushy salesmenwanted 4 grand for my "money making" website getautosplus which got less than 300 hits in a year. The website motormillions list cars in a state 2000 miles away from where I live and really sucks!!! I could put a car for sale on the shopping center across the street!!! Never got any phone calls with their stupid "techniques"!!! There are used car lots for a reason. Grazioso didn't reinvent the wheel. After I got the package with very general, useless, vague information I got an offer for even more "stuff". A stupid website promoting commissions for car refinance, free cell phones, just like a new car dealership. Isn't that special!!!!!! Real ones get thousands of customers. The virtual bogus one doesn't get a one. My earnings reports show zeros!!! After wasting over 1,000 on "advertising" and "web hosting fees", my credit has been ruined thanks to them!!! How can I file a class action lawsuit??? I need an answer to to this question? Those testimonials about how much money these "people" are making. Where do they find those liars? They are too ugly to be paid actors and should prove on national TV that they are "making" money. Felipe Atlanta, Georgia
One week after receiving the book, I got a phone call from Dean Graziosi's marketing team. After 2 hours of a friendly/forceful sales pitch from a salesman, I got a follow-up call from the "closer" and I agreed to pay $5885 for a mentor. The next day I called to cancel. I didn't feel good about being so quick to make such a decision. I was promised a refund in 7-10 business days. The friendliness turned to pressure and the person was reluctant to let me off the phone. It has been 3 weeks and still no refund. I have taken it up with my bank, and I'm sure the dispute will end fine, but what a pain. But be careful....these people are not in the business of selling only books. They pray on people to fork over huge sums of money for a mentor. Anonymous New York, New York