Bill Hugall advertised a coaching program to help me learn internet marketing. I attended a webinar and responded to the call to action at the end.
I filled out a questionnaire (designed to do a take away - reverse psychology) applying for a "position" in his coaching program and of course positions were limited. I knew the strategy but didn't mind because I felt he would be a great coach from the webinar I attended.
I got a call from his sales guy, Lloyd, who proceeded to interview me. Again,a great tactic! The old take-away to see if I QUALIFIED for the coaching program. Of course, I knew exactly what answers to give him but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because the only qualification I needed was $5000. LOL!
So, this Lloyd tells me that Bill will work with me personally, help me figure out a niche, and guide me one on one, essentially be a personal business coach. He also told me that I would be placed in a FB group called the "Success Lounge" with other successful marketers in Bill's coaching program. (There are approximately 56 IM marketers in there who do nothing but pat each other on the back all day long...). I bet THEY didn't spend $5000 to be thrown into a FB group.
Lloyd, the sales guy, told me that if for any reason, within the first 10 days I did not feel this was for me, I would get 100% of my money back, no questions asked. Well, that didn't happen.
So like an idiot I sent $5000 through PayPal to Bill Hugall Enterprises. What I should have done first was get in writing EXACTLY what I was getting for my $5000. Buyer Beware!
So, I get a call from Bill a few days later introducing himself and telling me the plan. I was given access to the private FB group where a "thread" was set up for me to ask questions and interact with Bill and the others in the group. Bill told me that the more I interacted and made friends with others in the group, the more help I would get from them. So of course I spent a lot of time making comments and liking just about everything they said so I could show I was on board. He also had some videos for me to watch that "explained" how to do this Internet marketing thing. Of course, they were not designed for a beginner and as it turned out, that was the extent of Bill's "coaching".
I entered some comments into my FB thread asking what I needed to do to get started, what was my first step, etc,asking him where was my coaching and direction. I listed out the questions I had and told him I didn't have a clue how to start. His response basically was that I had a BAD attitude and I was negative and that I had to get my head on straight. He implied that by asking questions, I was making excuses!!!!
Rather than provide the coaching I had paid for, he kind of ridiculed me and of course this was posted in the FB group. So everyone saw I had an "atittude" HA! Of course I had a attitude. I just paid $5K for nothing, no coaching, no help.
Then Bill held a webinar for his members and decided to make me the subject of the webinar by outlining a "plan" of action for me to take. LOL!!! What a joke! My plan of action was to contact an "expert" in the group, interview them and turn that into a product to sell, a WSO. Well, hell, I didn't have a clue how to go about doing that. I didn't even know what WSO meant! When I asked Bill exactly HOW to go about doing this, he again implied I needed to have a more positive attitude and just jump in and do it (Do what???).
So I told him I wanted out and that I was in over my head and that this wasn't what I expected, etc. He begged and pleaded and told me he would NOT let me fail - that HE would run a campaign, a WSO, and MAKE SURE I made $5000. Like an idiot I agreed to stay with him. All the time I am telling him "I won't give up, I Can do this...blah blah blah," because he made me feel like there was something wrong with ME that I wasn't learning the ropes and I wanted to show him that I DID have a good attitude. Kind of a bully, don't you think?
Bottom line: No coaching, no guidance, nada, zip.... I essentially paid $5k to join a private FB group with NO help whatsoever.
So, finally I told him that was it, I wanted a refund. He kept putting that off and stalling me but finally I think he realized he had better do something. He finally refunded ONLY $4000 telling me he was keeping $1000 for his time and the content I got from his FB site. What a bunch of garbage. What time?? He may have spent a total of 15 minutes with me and believe me, there is no content in the FB group for someone needing to learn about how to start an online business that is a beginner. There are no lessons and no resources other than the other members "offers" that they are selling to the IM world. Again, it is just a bunch of marketers joining each others offers and patting each other on the back. No help for a newbie here!
I could fight this with Paypal, but what's the use. I don't have the time or energy to deal with it. So I thought I would let everyone know what a CROOK and SCAM artist this guy Bill Hugall is.
Bill Hugall Enterprises Inc Reviews
Bill Hugall advertised a coaching program to help me learn internet marketing. I attended a webinar and responded to the call to action at the end.
I filled out a questionnaire (designed to do a take away - reverse psychology) applying for a "position" in his coaching program and of course positions were limited. I knew the strategy but didn't mind because I felt he would be a great coach from the webinar I attended.
I got a call from his sales guy, Lloyd, who proceeded to interview me. Again,a great tactic! The old take-away to see if I QUALIFIED for the coaching program. Of course, I knew exactly what answers to give him but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because the only qualification I needed was $5000. LOL!
So, this Lloyd tells me that Bill will work with me personally, help me figure out a niche, and guide me one on one, essentially be a personal business coach. He also told me that I would be placed in a FB group called the "Success Lounge" with other successful marketers in Bill's coaching program. (There are approximately 56 IM marketers in there who do nothing but pat each other on the back all day long...). I bet THEY didn't spend $5000 to be thrown into a FB group.
Lloyd, the sales guy, told me that if for any reason, within the first 10 days I did not feel this was for me, I would get 100% of my money back, no questions asked. Well, that didn't happen.
So like an idiot I sent $5000 through PayPal to Bill Hugall Enterprises. What I should have done first was get in writing EXACTLY what I was getting for my $5000. Buyer Beware!
So, I get a call from Bill a few days later introducing himself and telling me the plan. I was given access to the private FB group where a "thread" was set up for me to ask questions and interact with Bill and the others in the group. Bill told me that the more I interacted and made friends with others in the group, the more help I would get from them. So of course I spent a lot of time making comments and liking just about everything they said so I could show I was on board. He also had some videos for me to watch that "explained" how to do this Internet marketing thing. Of course, they were not designed for a beginner and as it turned out, that was the extent of Bill's "coaching".
I entered some comments into my FB thread asking what I needed to do to get started, what was my first step, etc,asking him where was my coaching and direction. I listed out the questions I had and told him I didn't have a clue how to start. His response basically was that I had a BAD attitude and I was negative and that I had to get my head on straight. He implied that by asking questions, I was making excuses!!!!
Rather than provide the coaching I had paid for, he kind of ridiculed me and of course this was posted in the FB group. So everyone saw I had an "atittude" HA! Of course I had a attitude. I just paid $5K for nothing, no coaching, no help.
Then Bill held a webinar for his members and decided to make me the subject of the webinar by outlining a "plan" of action for me to take. LOL!!! What a joke! My plan of action was to contact an "expert" in the group, interview them and turn that into a product to sell, a WSO. Well, hell, I didn't have a clue how to go about doing that. I didn't even know what WSO meant! When I asked Bill exactly HOW to go about doing this, he again implied I needed to have a more positive attitude and just jump in and do it (Do what???).
So I told him I wanted out and that I was in over my head and that this wasn't what I expected, etc. He begged and pleaded and told me he would NOT let me fail - that HE would run a campaign, a WSO, and MAKE SURE I made $5000. Like an idiot I agreed to stay with him. All the time I am telling him "I won't give up, I Can do this...blah blah blah," because he made me feel like there was something wrong with ME that I wasn't learning the ropes and I wanted to show him that I DID have a good attitude. Kind of a bully, don't you think?
Bottom line: No coaching, no guidance, nada, zip.... I essentially paid $5k to join a private FB group with NO help whatsoever.
So, finally I told him that was it, I wanted a refund. He kept putting that off and stalling me but finally I think he realized he had better do something. He finally refunded ONLY $4000 telling me he was keeping $1000 for his time and the content I got from his FB site. What a bunch of garbage. What time?? He may have spent a total of 15 minutes with me and believe me, there is no content in the FB group for someone needing to learn about how to start an online business that is a beginner. There are no lessons and no resources other than the other members "offers" that they are selling to the IM world. Again, it is just a bunch of marketers joining each others offers and patting each other on the back. No help for a newbie here!
I could fight this with Paypal, but what's the use. I don't have the time or energy to deal with it. So I thought I would let everyone know what a CROOK and SCAM artist this guy Bill Hugall is.